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Thread: 38-55 green dot load on doe

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    Boolit Mold
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    38-55 green dot load on doe

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    My 13 year old son got this doe yesterday at my cousin's property. We went out for the 2 day youth only weekend here in Ohio. We were only in the stand a few hours Saturday morning when he spotted this 150lb doe trotting though the bottom. He missed his first shot, but put one right through the lungs and broke one shoulder with a follow up shot. He was super excited, as was I.

    The load we used was out of an old manual I have. It was 9gr Green dot over a powder coated cast lee 250gr bullet. I chronographed this at 1169fps. It is a very low recoil load, and is fairly quiet to boot. I was a little concerned that it wouldn't have enough power to cleanly kill a deer, but I was completely wrong. She went about 10 yard after he hit her and never got up. We never found the bullet, but it destroyed her lungs and heart and went through her shoulder bone. I am very impressed with how well this load worked, and sighted in to 75 yards it doesn't deviate more than 2 inches from point of aim. Adding to that, it shoots cloverleaf's at 50 yards! The gun is a JES rebored 336... I haven't heard of many using green dot, but I am really happy with it's performance.

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    Congrats to your son ! Shows you what a well placed shot with a cast boolit will do, I also have a Marlin 336 that JES rebored to 38-55, great caliber !

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    Good morning and to your son Congratulations !
    That is a fine photo of a young man who has put in the time practicing. Making a good follow-up shot takes a good steady aim and trigger finger. Good shooting !
    The 38-55 has been smacking corn crunchers for double my age and will keep right on doing so. Anytime you wonder about a cartridge capability just look into that same cartridge or one similar using black powder. The 38 Extra Long and 38-50 Ballard has been about for 150 years doing fine service on bean eaters and bears.
    Our house has a few caliber 38 JES Rebores sitting about also
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    Nice work, just goes to show you don't need a belted case or big numbers on paper for good results.

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    way to go!!!!!!!
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    Thanks guys! He spent a lot of time at the range this summer practicing with his 22. I'm pretty proud of him.

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    Following up and making a hit shows he keeps his head under pressure many go to pieces when that first shot misses and do nothing but watch or start slinging lead like a battle rattle! Wonderful job!

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    Nice job! Yup, it can take a lot less power than most people think to knock a deer over as long as it’s placed properly!

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    I think of it as a "baby 45-70"- and I like mine, too. Your son has me jealous now- I haven't got one with my Win/JES 38-55.....yet!

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    Nice job! Gives me confidence in possibly using mine this year..
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    Got to love it.
    Awesoem to hear the round excelled your expectation at a 'low' velocity --- big fan of the 38/55-375 deals an this right here is awesome too see!!

    good on the Lad.
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    Well done sir, your son and you!!! the 38-55 is a grand old game getter and your son and load just proved it again.......however.....

    Not possible...obviously phot shopped and a different firearm and cartridge was used. EVERYONE knows it takes at LEAST 3500 FPS, a $4.00 solid copper bullet, and a 12 X 36, A/O, BDC scope to kill a 120 lb. white tail at 50 yards.....lol!!!!......
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    Good job to you both and the young man keeping it together for a dead on second shot .

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    Congratulations and Happy Thanksgiving! As stated above, it doesn't take magnum power to kill a deer. A 250 gr. cast boolit @ 11-1200 fps has been gettin' the job done for years, and will continue to do so!
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    DaveOhio, your thoughts on if the GD 9gr load was enough. 1200 fps with a 250gr slug is equal to a full house load in 44 Mag revolver. I have a Win 94- 375 Big Bore loaded with 16 gr 2400 under RCBS clocking 1300 fps Fabulous gun and load. Keep the kids shooting GW

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    I have killed two 200+ lb hogs with my Marlin 1893 in 38-55. One was with a Texas heart shot at about 125 yards and the other was at about 75 yards. With an original Marlin 26 inch light round barrel it is a joy to carry. I use IMR 4895 and the RCBS 250gr FN bullet to get a velocity about 1300 fps. The RCBS bullet weight about 265 grains cast of ww and tin. I size to .378. I need to chronograph the load. I use a lyman tang sight and if I miss it is my fault.
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    Putting the lie to the bigger-better-faster always brings a smile to my face. Jes did a .38-55 for me and I love it. Already put one in the freezer last year and Hope to do the same again. Congrats to you for being a good Dad and congrats to the kid for listening to what I'm sure has been a few years of instruction and care.

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    Congrats to you and your son. There is nothing as much fun as being out with kids. The GD loads are not heard about much as other powders sound so much more modern. I have Lyman books from the late 50s and 60s that show a lot of GD loads. Enjoy.
    Steve

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    Nice job and congratulations to your son. JES does good work, he did a .375 Winchester for me that will also take .38-55 short brass. Thank you for the information on the GD.

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    Congrats to the Boy. He should be hooked on deer hunting now. Plus using an "classic" caliber and cast bullet .....Way to go
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