Just finished molding a couple of slugs

[turtlezx]

whats the point of speed ?? 12 gauge at 1200 fps will knock most any thing down littlest groups at what ever speed is king

[ASSASSIN]

whats the point of speed ?? 12 gauge at 1200 fps will knock most any thing down littlest groups at what ever speed is king

Flatter trajectory over a longer distance!

Just like my .690 round ball loads. I was fortunate enough to have "2" accurate loads at both ends of the spectrum. One at 1,100 fps. and one at 1,700 fps.. Anything faster or slower than those two velocity levels would not shoot accurately.

I shoot the 1,100 fps. load for "plinking" inside of 50 yards, and the 1,700 fps. load does very well out to around 150 yards.

I worked with my round ball loads until I was ready to throw the mold in the trash, because no load was accurate enough to get any consistent use out of it. I learned that the round balls it was producing were not perfectly round!

I took the mold to one of buddy's and he put a .692 diameter carbide ball in the mold, and squeezed the two halves together in a 90 ton press, and made the mold to where it would in fact produce perfectly round balls.

Now, the worse load I have shot to date has been 2" at 50 yards, to where the best loads from the mold in factory form was 8" at 50 yards!

With the pellet type slugs, I have never shot that type for accuracy before, so I am really looking forward to trying it out. I also want to see just how much difference there might be between leaving the base of the slug hollow, vs. that of filling the base with hot glue.

Lots of different things to test, and I cannot wait to get started.

[megasupermagnum]

So don't list your powder charges. Just list what powder you are using. No liability in that.

[Blood Trail]

Yeah, that’s smoking fast for a 1 oz slug. Fastest slug I’ve reloaded (with crappy accuracy) was the 7/8 oz LBC sabot from Ballistic Products using published data of 60 grs of longshot in a 3.5” hull. Those came in around 2100 fps on a hot, Summer Texas day.

Are you pressure testing that load? If so, how?


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[ASSASSIN]

Watching bucks chase does yesterday, I tested the 2,000 fps. load at 100 yards, and it did so bad that it be shameful to post a picture of the target.

Blood Trail - I use a Piezoelectric Transducer System for testing all shotgun loads.

On rare occasions, I'll drag out one of the test barrels for the Lead Crusher System just to see what the LUP readings are.

Then there is the Oehler System 84. While a very worthwhile testing system for shotguns, this one just seems to be gathering dust and doesn't see as much use as what it should.

[ASSASSIN]

5-shot groups at 100 yards, with group size measured center to center.

1,100 fps. - 4 3/8"

1,200 fps. - 4 1/4"

1,300 fps. - 3 1/2"

1,400 fps. - 2 7/8"

1,500 fps. - 2.0"

1,600 fps. - 1 3/8"

1,700 fps. 1 1/16"

1,800 fps. - 7 7/8"

1,900 fps. - 11 3/4"

2,000 fps. - 19 1/8"

All wads used were the Federal 12S4 brown wad.

All wads had a 1/8" nitro card in the base.

I tested slugs that were open base, and slugs that had the base filled with hot melt glue.

Regardless of velocity, the hollow base slugs were very erratic in the accuracy department.

All slugs with the hot melt glue in the base, were very consistent in both accuracy and velocity.

The 6" rifled choke tube I used was very detrimental to accuracy. Very disappointing!

Best accuracy came from the use of a factory modified choke tube. Improved cylinder was not good at all, at least with this particular 34" barrel.

[megasupermagnum]

What did the wads look like at 1700 fps and 1800 fps?

[ASSASSIN]

What did the wads look like at 1700 fps and 1800 fps?

They looked good. Pretty much identical to the 1,300 fps. and 1,400 fps. wads.

I was very much surprised that the wads from the highest velocity loads were not destroyed, but both the gas seals and the petals all remained in tact.

[megasupermagnum]

And you are sure you are using a normal shotgun powder like Bluedot, Longshot, 800x, etc.? I've never seen a wad that wouldn't shear if pushed hard enough, and I've never seen one get even close to 2000 fps.

[ASSASSIN]

My regular Remington barrel starts to shear petals and destroy gas seals at around 1,400 to 1,500 fps..

My Winchester barrels starts to destroy the wads at 1,300 fps..

My Hastings Wadlock barrel is easiest on all wads and slugs, and produces the highest velocity of all barrels tested.

[ASSASSIN]

123 yards / 12 ga. Diablo slug / 1,600 fps
/ fully processed / deer chili / all other meat bagged and tagged and put in freezer.

[Hogtamer]

Good man, beans in the chile! Better man than me with a bead sight.

[ASSASSIN]

Good man, beans in the chile! Better man than me with a bead sight.

You gotta have beans!

I "had" a red dot sight on my shotgun, but the high velocity loads I was working with totally destroyed it!