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    Boolit Bub
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    Any help identifying these?

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    Looks like they were cutting them down. Also looks to be blank ammo but have no clue as to what they are. Any help is appreciated
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    Last picture is not apart of the others don't know how it got there.

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    Looks like Lake City 2006 308 or 06' blank/salute ammo .
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    I can't tell from the pictures without a size comparison if they're .30-06 or 7.62 NATO (.308Win).

    Top is USGI issue from the Lake City plant, and the numbers are the year of manufacture.
    It's common to see 'WRA' head stamps mixed in with LC brass.
    Its USGI issue from Winchester Repeating Arms.

    To reload it: If it hasn't already been done, you'll need to cut the ridge out where the primer was crimped in.
    The new loading books don't address it, but all the old ones advised dropping the powder charge one full grain
    to compensate for the military brass being thicker.

    Middle picture is USGI issue blanks.

    Third picture looks like 7.9mm Turkish or possibly 7.9mm Russian military issue made in 1945.
    You'd need to do a little research to be sure, but that may be what everybody else calls '8mm Mauser'.

    As far as cutting down blanks to make useable cases- most people advise against it.
    I'm not exactly sure why, but folks say they aren't as strong as regular cases, and split easily.
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    I was told that inferior brass; assorted rejects, hardness out of spec etc were used / repurposed for blanks. I wouldn't try to save them.

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    Thanks guys I appreciate it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Martin Luber View Post
    I was told that inferior brass; assorted rejects, hardness out of spec etc were used / repurposed for blanks. I wouldn't try to save them.
    The blanks are Lake City 7.62 NATO blanks made for use in M14s, M60s and M240s. They were/are made from the same brass as the regular ball load brass is made from. Note the long necks simulating bullets. US arsenals do not use "inferior" brass for such.

    Some 30-06 blanks back "in the day" used rejected cases or cases from "pull down" ammo. Those had cases of standard length which were star crimped. They did not have the extended part to simulate the bullet length, The 30-06 blanks (also 50 cal blanks) required a feed tray adaptor to take up the bullet space for blank firing in MGs if reliable functioning was wanted. The star crimped 30-06 blanks fed reliably in most M1s as did the 30 M1 Carbine blanks in the m1 Carbine. Of course BFAs were also needed.

    Currently all 7.62 and 5.56 US made blanks are not made "inferior" or reject brass.
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