Like carp through a goose. That's how they'll feed. I have shot many, many hundreds of 311041 sized .310 over 34 grains of WW-748. At the club I used to shoot at, the steel ranges were set up in meters, not yards. And the rams were very hard to knock over. It took a heavy boolit hitting hard to put one down. I eventually went to a 45-70 Marlin CB due to ringing a ram with a solid body hit only to have it teeter, then pop back up. On other ranges, my 30-30 was just fine.