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    fatelk, here is one that I let get away on the same day I bought the 2 above guns and was tapped out for cash or it would be in my safe today. The price reflects what a good mod 10 should go for without the nutty prices of today factored in.Attachment 290573 BTW, that 45 just above it in the pic is a Singer he wanted $700 for. What a bad time to be broke.
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    What a bad time to be broke.
    Is there ever a good time?

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    I'm afraid not Robert. It always looks like the guy at the next table says : here comes Murf and he's busted. Lets offer a deal he will cry about!
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    I picked up three Model 10-5s in the last couple years. They were re-imported police surplus guns from overseas, not pretty externally but good otherwise. I had to replace the mainspring on one, add a cylinder bearing shim, and replace a cylinder stop spring on another. I paid $230 each, as I recall. I couldn't pass that up. The grips were all beat up, plenty of wear on the bluing, even some rust. They all cleaned up fairly well and are great shooters. I do like the Model 10.

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    Well, I bought it today, probably paid too much, but oh well. I don't get too concerned about a few bucks either way anymore. Not that I have money to waste, but if it's something I want, a few dollars doesn't make much difference.

    There is no discernible endshake at all, and cylinder gap is .005". Double-action pull is very smooth, single action is crisp and light. We took it out and shot about 80 rounds through it- no misfires. I didn't sit down and shoot for accuracy, but it seemed to do fine offhand. It shoots a bit low with my preferred .38 load, a 128gr TC powder-coated bullet at about 800fps.

    I suspect it may have been reblued, but I'm not an expert. The more I look at it, the more I think it was. It's not obvious, at least to me, but it seems a bit too shiny. Something seemed odd about the markings too, like they were colored in at one time. I looked closely under a magnifying glass, and it sure looks to me that there's actual gold in them. Someone filled the markings with gold. Interesting idea. I have to wonder who worked this gun over, and why. It seems to work fine so I'm not going to worry about it.

    It came with Pachmayr rubber grips, of which I'm not a fan. They're comfortable to shoot, but I'm a bit of a purist and have a strong preference for original wood grips, so I'll have to go looking for a nice pair without breaking the bank.

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    Let us see it fatelk. We love gun porn and old Smith and Wessons in particular.
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    Look for dished screw heads and blued triggers and hammers for obvious reblue tells. The insignia should be bright and not look buffed.
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    I'm hesitant to post photos, since you all are likely to ask me why I bought this old hunk of junk. Just kidding

    Comparing the look of the markings with my other guns, it seems clear that this gun was reblued. Carefully done, I suppose, and I did suspect it before I bought it. It's not like it's a collector's piece or anything; I just generally avoid guns that have been tinkered with. I don't know whether it was a master gunsmith, or Bubba in his garage. So far so good. It seems to work fine.


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    No flies on that one! Those Pachs are EXACTLY how I would run that revolver. Nice acquisition.
    I don't paint bullets. I like Black Rifle Coffee. Sacred cows are always fair game. California is to the United States what Syria is to Russia and North Korea is to China/South Korea/Japan--a Hermit Kingdom detached from the real world and led by delusional maniacs, an economic and social basket case sustained by "foreign" aid so as to not lose military bases.

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    I would have bought it, too. Way less than a new car payment for something that can still be useful in a hundred or more years.

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    Thanks guys. My 15yo son likes shooting it too. He's a fairly decent shot single-action, and this gun makes learning double-action easier.

    Regarding the Pachmayrs, I agree that they are nice to shoot, but like they say, "There's no accounting for taste". I've never been able to bring myself to like rubber grips on a revolver. They just look wrong to me, and I replace them with wood whenever I can. They feel too narrow for me, and are plain ugly (my opinion only). I understand the practicality; I just don't personally like them.

    I'm thinking about ordering a set of these (photo from Altamont site):

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    I’ve got one that’s also too shiny!
    This one came to me wearing rubber.
    Found her a nice set of targets in my junk drawer.
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    I've went through the various Pachmayr's, rubber and nylon Hogue's, more wood grips than I can remember and I still come back to Magna style grips with a grip adapter for fixed sight K frames. They work for me.

    Most fixed sight double action revolvers seem right with service style stocks and a Tyler or whatever brand (even homemade) grip adapter. Adjustable sighted guns I'm a bit more lenient.

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    I can only shake my head and say "it takes all kinds." The FIRST thing I do with a K-frame is replace the awful wood grips with something useful, either Hogue Monogrips or the Pachmayr Professional open-backed finger grooved models. Those Magna grips may have been the bee's knees in 1932, but I can't stand 'em.

    However, to get back a little closer to the topic, I was dismayed at the prices being asked for plain-Jane M-10's at the Gunshow yesterday. $550? $595? Even a pretty ratty, holster-worn, old, PD example that looked like 5 miles of bad road was $395. The only 6 incher I saw was 495, and had it looked half-way decent, it might have followed me home, but the left side was pretty badly rust pitted. Curiously, the right side was in pretty fair shape for a 60 or 70 year old gun.
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    A six inch medium frame 38 Special has much to recommend it for range and field us. But if I were going to hunt one up, it would not be a Model 10 or a Colt Official Police. I would hunt up a Smith K-38 (Model 17) or a Colt Officers Model. I have one of each and they were bought years ago for less than $300.00 each. Adjustable sights are truly wonderful things that keep us from hunting up a load that will shoot to the sights or else bending or otherwise screwing with fixed sights. Folks that say such adjustable sights are to fragile for field use are "full of blue mud" as my Great Aunt Lou Featherston used to say. Take care of your guns, and they will take care of you.
    Disclaimer: The above is not holy writ. It is just my opinion based on my experience and knowledge. Your mileage may vary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rintinglen View Post
    I can only shake my head and say "it takes all kinds." The FIRST thing I do with a K-frame is replace the awful wood grips with something useful, either Hogue Monogrips or the Pachmayr Professional open-backed finger grooved models. Those Magna grips may have been the bee's knees in 1932, but I can't stand 'em.
    Like they say, there's no accounting for taste. Back when I first got into guns 30+ years ago, I tried Hogue and Pachmayr grips on a number of different guns. They always came off again and I have a box full of them. I hated the thin feel, and hated the rubber look. I wondered why they were so popular, until someone told me I'd change my mind if I shot more.

    Maybe we should trade our boxes of take-off grips.

    All kidding aside, I've never been a competitor, and I tend to be something of a purist. Looks are important to me for old guns. It bugs me if it doesn't look like I think it should. I've also never spent a weekend shooting thousands of rounds in competition, so I haven't learned to fully appreciate a good Hogue or Pachmayr.

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    Good buy!

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    Those Altamont grips you showed above are BEAUTIFUL, no two ways about it. To each his or her own, I say.

    My two favorite 38 Specials are a 1960s S&W M&P x 5" and a late 40s Colt OMT x 6". Both wear Pachs because I'm a Philistine but both shoot wonderfully for me. Both love #358429 at 800 FPS, +P has no place in revolvers of this vintage.
    I don't paint bullets. I like Black Rifle Coffee. Sacred cows are always fair game. California is to the United States what Syria is to Russia and North Korea is to China/South Korea/Japan--a Hermit Kingdom detached from the real world and led by delusional maniacs, an economic and social basket case sustained by "foreign" aid so as to not lose military bases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fatelk View Post
    I'm hesitant to post photos, since you all are likely to ask me why I bought this old hunk of junk. Just kidding

    Comparing the look of the markings with my other guns, it seems clear that this gun was reblued. Carefully done, I suppose, and I did suspect it before I bought it. It's not like it's a collector's piece or anything; I just generally avoid guns that have been tinkered with. I don't know whether it was a master gunsmith, or Bubba in his garage. So far so good. It seems to work fine.


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    HUNK OF JUNK? you have got to be kidding. I am in the same boat with you. There are a lot of good old Smith and Wessons out there that are not unfired in the box that shoot great BUT. they are getting scarfed up more and more. It looks pretty good to me. Feed that old girl a good 158 gr cast boolit and some Bullseye and watch her purr. Ya' done good.
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    I made a quick trip to the range this afternoon. Sitting at a bench and aiming carefully, I shot a couple 2.5" to 3" groups. I didn't have any sand bags with me, just resting my wrists on the bench, and the wind and rain were a factor, so that's actually pretty good for me. Surprisingly, at that range from the bench the groups were just below the bullseye only a couple inches, good enough to blast clay targets off the berm every time.

    Having put 150+ rounds through it, I could get used to the grips. They feel pretty good for shooting. I think I will get those Altamont grips for it though. They call them "Roper" grips. I really like the looks of them.

    The guy I bought this from had a couple others too. He had a Pre-10 M&P that was just as nice, with stag grips. The price was slightly more. There was another S&W .38 Special that was absolutely pristine. I forget the model because it was too nice for me, and out of my price range ($900). He had me dry-fire it a couple times to try the trigger (absolutely perfect). I was hesitant to do that because the bluing was pristine, not even a ring on the cylinder. He said they were from an estate, and he had more that he hadn't brought into the shop yet. I'm curious what else he has. I don't have the resources to buy every gun that strikes my fancy, but for a nice Model 15 or 27, maybe...

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