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    Quote Originally Posted by Alferd Packer View Post
    should say over powder or overshot wads and then the gauge.12 gauge, 16 ga.etc.
    auto parts store sells both cheap gasket punch or arch punch.
    Also big black powder catalogue sells punches.
    Name escapes me?
    Dixie, Track of the Wolf, etc.


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    Sharpen the neck of the appropriate cartridge case and punch your own.
    "Experience is a series of non-fatal mistakes"


    Disarming is a mistake free people only get to make once...

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    Quote Originally Posted by scattershot View Post
    Sharpen the neck of the appropriate cartridge case and punch your own.
    How do you sharpen?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tayous1 View Post
    How do you sharpen?
    tayous1,

    I run a 60-acre farm and shoot much on my 5 ranges. I do load snake loads for the occasional copperheads and rattlers. I suspect a nickel a gas check for snake loads is a bit much in 2021, but times are changing! Yesterday my local gun shop finally got in 100-round trays of CCI .22 long rifle ammo for $14.90 a pop! I have a few "bricks" of 500 rounds that were $14.00 each, back in the day. Until 2024, NOTHING will ever cost less. Go gas up and see my point.

    A nickel, per each, gas check is a BARGAIN at this point in time! Trust me on this.

    Be Well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tayous1 View Post
    How do you sharpen?
    You can do it with the burring tool or a large diameter countersink. It has been so long since I did it that way I don't remember if putting the bevel on the outside or inside of the case worked better.

    Also you can drill out the primer pocket and use a small bolt and nut to make a powered cutter with your electric drill.

    Robert

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    That's good that you can spend $60 on copper! When there is a lot of free aluminum out there!

    Guess I'm the type they would much rather do a little work than spend hard-earned money!

    Gas is up everything is up thanks to who is in the office! It was not like this a year ago except with ammo and reloading items!

    Why spend good hard-earned money on something that you can make with a little time and effort? Guess that's the self-sufficient person in me trying to not rely on someone else to do a job I can do for free or for 1/8 of the price. I don't have all the money in the world I can dream of owning 60 acres of land. All I have is 10 acres that have never been worked.

    I have fences to build areas to till and boulders to move so I can set up an orchard for trees. Have to fence off all the property that has not been taken care of since 1995 have to cut several trees down to make room for the fence as I work a regular job 40 hours a week and worse I work evenings!

    $60 might not be much to you but a guy who has to fence his land by hand has other obligations and jobs that's have to be done!

    So $60 is a lot for something I could make for free or about free!

    I live in a house that was built in 1940 the well has never has had a water softener that I installed last year. So all my pipes are rusted, the home has two old water heaters I can't even both electric that sucks up money each day. I need to buy two propane instant water heaters. Also, have to replace my microwave/stove that is electric with propane for the oven and just make it a double oven!

    Have to update my stovetop as it has not been cleaned properly so I need to get a new burner.

    Last for this my home since in South West Texas did not come with a heater! All the propane heaters were taken out because they are not up to standards! My family suffered last winter as our power went out for 5 days! No power no water even though we have a well but no Power!

    Have a generator to buy! So my wife can do her job at home that makes a lot more then I do I'm talking a lot $$$!

    So $60 is a lot to me! I'm not talk even about what needs to be fixed inside.

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    I have not made many snake loads, not much need for them up here in the Frozen North.
    But I have punched several hundred overshot cards from white plastic milk carton.

    I use the 3 liter lactaid jugs as that is what my wife and I have on hand.

    Set of harbor freight punches, a rubber mallet and a chunk of 4x4.

    Even those might need to be sharpened a little. Dremel with a sanding disk or stone.

    I have also sharpened many cartridge cases. Chamfering tool works fine, do most of the work on the outside.
    Those styrofoam trays they sell meat on cut real easy. They are a bit thicker. A drop of glue or a dab of hot wax will hold it in place.

    Mine I punched the primer out, then slid a blowgun dart into the cartridge. Roll the far end or glue a piece of branch on the sharp point. Cut 3 or 4, give it a push and out they come. I have one made from a .444marlin brass that has cut a lot of plugs.

    Its all about finding the right size brass for the application. Then sit down and use your head. Good luck!
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    tayous1,

    Yessir, all your points were well taken. To answer your question: One way to sharpen an empty cartridge case very sharp to a knife edge is with a chamfer and deburring tool.
    Hope this helps.

    Adam

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    Quote Originally Posted by scattershot View Post
    Sharpen the neck of the appropriate cartridge case and punch your own.
    A 45 degree countersink bit will work, or some kind of deburring tool.
    "Experience is a series of non-fatal mistakes"


    Disarming is a mistake free people only get to make once...

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    Quote Originally Posted by alferd packer View Post
    should say over powder or overshot wads and then the gauge.12 gauge, 16 ga.etc.
    Auto parts store sells both cheap gasket punch or arch punch.
    Also big black powder catalogue sells punches.
    Name escapes me?
    Quote Originally Posted by trapper9260 View Post
    what i use not use of gc is cards i cut out with gasket punches from snap on , what they sell it cover all the ones i shotshell and also for over shot cards for all my shotguns. I load 10, 12, 20, 410 . There is a hole punch that cover them in what they sell beside for 32 cals, 38 , 44 cal, and you need to check the rest and what i do is put 2 cards over the powder press in by hand one at a time then put shot the then 1 card over the shot and glue in place , but i see some posted that they crimp them i need to try that out the next time i make some. I use cracker box to cut my cards .
    dixie gunworks catalogue.

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    DIxie Gunworks Catalogue
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    Harbor Frieght 9 piece hollow punch set, $10.

    Bleach bottle punch outs for overshot wad.

    357 mag seating die for crimping mouth on 45 acp ss

    Nail polish for sealant.

    But upside down .375” gas checks do work well for 45 ss
    Last edited by Bwana John; 07-30-2022 at 01:30 AM.

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    I used a 3 inch section of 1/2 inch steel tube with 1/16 steel wall, drilled a 29/64 hole in the end approximately 1/3 inch deep then sharpened around the outside edge with a file. This made a nice card over powder wad for 45 colt snake loads. Hit the punch on a suitable thickness card stock backed up with the edge of a 2x4. The end only. Just push one side of the card in and pull it out with tweezers. A hand punch is slow but a lot faster than you might think. I use 7 grains of AA#5 an over the shot wad and 160 grains #8 shot then close with a 200 grain semi wadcutter bullet or a 200 grain Lee tumble lube. This way I can do in any snake or anything else that can hurt me! #12 shot would be better but I had #8 and a sack of #12 is costly.

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    watch what type of card stock you use. the white glossy card stock is coated with a white clay> milk carton, paper plates, solid bleach is clay free> black powder catalog sells punches sized for what you need.

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    I use one of these and punch a plastic “card” from an old shot shell, cut open, laid flat, on top of a piece of hardwood and smack with a hammer.

    https://www.harborfreight.com/9-piec...YaAtsBEALw_wcB

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    How many .44 shot loads will you actually shoot in a year? Does the cost of the gas checks really matter?
    Cognitive Dissident

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Abbreviations used in Reloading

BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
GC Gas Check