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Thread: 308W 220gr Berrys J-words w/Trail Boss subsonic success

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    308W 220gr Berrys J-words w/Trail Boss subsonic success

    I have several thousand 308 steel case 147gr fmj Berdan primed surplus ammo sitting around from years ago. Not a fan of it unless I was just making dirt fly, which I don’t do anymore with the cost of such silliness.

    Anyway, I started disassembling some of it. I thought it would be nice to have some throw away cases to experiment with 308W subsonics and make good use of the surplus ammo. I had some 220 grain Berrys plated for the 300BO laying around and some TB powder, so I started playing…..

    11.7gr of TB under the Berrys 220 and WOW…. What fun! The case is full near the bottom of the neck. Running them through a Ruger Predator with a can, I can keep them easily in 1.5” at 100yrds. I was shocked as I saw many reports of tumbling results with those long heavy boolits. Next time out, I’m sand bagging that baby to see what she will really produce.

    My thoughts were if this “test” was successful with the throw away cases with Berry’s 220’s, I planned to pour me some comparables and hope to get similar results.

    I’ve also acquired a Rem 700 AAC to try out too…..

    I’m wondering if anyone has transitioned from similar weight J-words subsonic loads to similar cast and had successful accuracy.

    Looks like I’m busy for a few weeks now!
    Last edited by Lksdmachine; 10-12-2021 at 05:07 PM.

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    how are you seating the bullets? How deep in the case?

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    I (and few of my friends) use MP 311-235 BLK bullet for subs, we don’t use GC’s for up to 1200fps.

    9.6grs of TrailBoss or TinStar is a starting point for those 220grs HP (224grs with GC) if you look for subsonic velocity


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    Quote Originally Posted by BunkTheory View Post
    how are you seating the bullets? How deep in the case?

    I’ve seated to an OAL of 2.78” and it feeds from the Ruger magazine nicely. I’m sure that long stick is well below the neck. But I sure can not argue with how it prints holes.
    I often see folks opening up the flag hole using TB….maybe the Berdan double hole priming flash works better to ignite TB like this? I have not taken a boxer primed case with the same recipe to try yet and compare performance. Might be worth it to compare.

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Abbreviations used in Reloading

BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
GC Gas Check