Non Ethanol Gas Is Cheaper Than Ethanol Blend

[Cosmic_Charlie]

Non ethanol is quite common here in MN. IT has always been more expensive. Use it in my motorcycle and small engines.

[10x]

Because he's wrong. Gasoline = 120,286 btu/gal. Ethanol = 76,100 btu/gal. Being an engineer, which one of these fuels will do the most work? Or, 3.412142 btu's per watt/hour for another way of looking at the energy value. Either way you look at it, there's no free lunch here.

Internal Combustion engines are really heat engines.
The more heat avaialbe in the fuel the more power they will produce per litre of fuel.

The guys here who used to run propane discoved that propane gave great economy because it was cheaper than gasoline, But when the cost per 100 km was calculated they were not saving as much as they believed. When propane prices rose, gasoline (per 100 km travelled) became less expensive.

[fastdadio]

Internal Combustion engines are really heat engines.
The more heat avaialbe in the fuel the more power they will produce per litre of fuel.

The guys here who used to run propane discoved that propane gave great economy because it was cheaper than gasoline, But when the cost per 100 km was calculated they were not saving as much as they believed. When propane prices rose, gasoline (per 100 km travelled) became less expensive.

Propane is 91,452 btu/gal. Better than ethanol. One has to absorb the cost of the conversion up front in the fuel savings though. Are propane vehicles sold in Canada? They can be special ordered as fleet vehicles down here at an added cost.

[jonp]

Propane is 91,452 btu/gal. Better than ethanol. One has to absorb the cost of the conversion up front in the fuel savings though. Are propane vehicles sold in Canada? They can be special ordered as fleet vehicles down here at an added cost.

I see quite a number of private short haul fleets using natural gas.