Non Ethanol Gas Is Cheaper Than Ethanol Blend

[Plate plinker]

That doesn't surprise me since it takes a gallon of fossil fuel to produce a gallon of ethanol. It's a subsidy that comes out of our pocket in taxes that keeps the ethanol boat afloat. It never was cost effective, it was always a complete scam. Pure politics aimed at the corn belt. It also removed food from the plate. A win-win for the evil folks driving this stuff. At least that's my understanding of it.

Yep the pencil say it makes zero sense to do this. Waste of fuel and water.

[megasupermagnum]

Yep the pencil say it makes zero sense to do this. Waste of fuel and water.

Well it's a cheap, last minute solution by government to prop up crop farming, which was becoming a failing business. What else did you expect?

[Jedman]

They call it Rec Gas here and it costs about .70 a gallon more than regular unleaded. I burn it in my old outboards and my homemade street rod with a air cooled VW engine.

Jedman

[swingingblock2520]

Ethanol is about as healthy for a gasser as modern low/ultra low sulfur diesel is for your pumps and injectors. I fill my wife’s car up at the farm,we still get southern states super green straight premium gas delivered.

[jonp]

As far as I know, all fuel except off-road diesel is taxed.

There is a reason for the dye. If DOT looks into your tank, and they do sometimes especially in NJ, and see's color your in for a big ticket.

[swingingblock2520]

Concerning race fuels,when I used to buy high sulfured high cetane diesel for my truck and pulling tractor or leaded 115 race fuel for the nova every time I bought race fuel,be it gas or diesel there was a tax on it here in Maryland as well as across the river in WVA. At least from the VP distributors I deal with. Modern off-road diesel/#2 heating oil is nothing more than dyed ultra low sulfur fuel.

[Pressman]

As far as I know, all fuel except off-road diesel is taxed.

There is a reason for the dye. If DOT looks into your tank, and they do sometimes especially in NJ, and see's color your in for a big ticket.

In Iowa the DOT can enter a trucking/construction companies' lot and inspect the vehicle fuel tanks at will, now probable cause required.

[megasupermagnum]

How do they check pickup trucks? Tractors and other big rigs are obvious, the fuel is right under the cap.

[Winger Ed.]

How do they check pickup trucks? Tractors and other big rigs are obvious, the fuel is right under the cap.

The State Troopers here carry a clear plastic hose.
Ya stick it down in a fuel tank, put your thumb over the end, and pull it part way back out.
It the fuel in the hose is the least little bit of a red tint----- you get a big fat ticket.

Here, when a state LEO- Trooper or Game Warden writes a ticket, it goes to the local Justice of the Peace court.
There is no 'speed trap' sort of incentive for them to write tickets here. Whatever fine is levied, stays in that county.

So, there is no fixed rate for the fine.
I heard from a friend of a friend, one fella around here was fined $750.
for running his pick up with off road/red Diesel that didn't have 'road tax' on it.
He'd been filling his truck with the red Diesel he bought for construction equipment.

[swingingblock2520]

It’s a DOT issue not local in Maryland,they can dip commercial tanks. I’d love to see my tank get dipped because it’s red as a baboons ass but it’s not off road diesel,it’s the 3 gal of ATF that goes in to every 40 gallons. Now that’s not to say I’ve never ran off-road in my truck because I have lol

[Winger Ed.]

,it’s the 3 gal of ATF that goes in to every 40 gallons.

Oh,,,,,,,,,, you'd sure get a ticket here.
And you'd have to bring the judge some sort of chemical/lab analysis to beat it..... and that's no guarantee.

All the Troopers I've run into are fair,,,, but have no sense of humor, or listen to the least little bit of BS.
If ya bowed up on one, they'd probably tow the truck, and leave you standing on the side of the road.

[swingingblock2520]

I’d fight it and win but I’d never get dipped here in the Mid-Atlantic. Wouldn’t have to add any oils to my fuel if they didn’t take all of the lubricity out of fuel.

[fastdadio]

I’d fight it and win but I’d never get dipped here in the Mid-Atlantic. Wouldn’t have to add any oils to my fuel if they didn’t take all of the lubricity out of fuel.

I add TC-w3 two stroke oil to the gas in all my engines. 1/4 oz per gallon ratio. Gives it a bit of blue tint. It does a bunch of other stuff also, but I'm done with my thread jack...

[jonp]

I add TC-w3 two stroke oil to the gas in all my engines. 1/4 oz per gallon ratio. Gives it a bit of blue tint. It does a bunch of other stuff also, but I'm done with my thread jack...

I think blue or grey is ok, it's the red they are looking for but others can correct me on this. I still remember when Red Diesel was a sign of good fuel

[oldscool]

[rockrat]

I also think that the ethanol was started because of politics and trying to buy votes

[Plate plinker]

Well it's a cheap, last minute solution by government to prop up crop farming, which was becoming a failing business. What else did you expect?

I expect what happened to happen, what should happen is the BIG GOVERNMENT get out of business and that includes farming.

[Plate plinker]

I also think that the ethanol was started because of politics and trying to buy votes

Absolutely! Everything is about money and power. Look at all those stupid windmills.

[jonp]

That makes no sense. I'm thinking computer error or something.

[JonB_in_Glencoe]

That makes no sense. I'm thinking computer error or something.

Kansas ethanol is generously subsidized.
That 93 octane is E30.

https://www.kansas.com/news/business...156195449.html