Local reloading shop has powder.
231 $36 per pound
5744 $54 per pound
Reloader 7 $45 per pound
Who do they think they are, Bass Proshops?
Local reloading shop has powder.
231 $36 per pound
5744 $54 per pound
Reloader 7 $45 per pound
Who do they think they are, Bass Proshops?
I hate to be the one to break the news, but that is the new normal.
Any powder less than $40/lb is a good deal.
If there is none available, just about any price is a good deal.
762
Hope for the best, plan for the worst.
My amendment can beat up your amendment.
Looks like Hodgodon made powders are all in the mid-high $30.00 range, direct from Hodgodon. Yeah, I guess that's the new normal...until it goes up again.
Powder cost is not a big driver for my needs. Most of my shooting is with 9mm and .38 pistol calibers. I average about 5 gr of powder/round and at $25/lb it costs $.90 a box for powder, if it doubles to $50/lb another $.90/box is acceptable. If I shoot 5000 rounds a year, that is 100 boxes, so another $90...big deal.
Quite a few folks have posted they will stop shooting if primers are over $75/k. Not sure where the "breaking point" is with powder cost. Going from $37.50/k to 75/k for primers adds $1.88/box of pistol rounds.
I certainly hope people do not stop shooting. Primers are the top issue as there is no practical alternative to using primers, and we use the same cost primer for a mouse phart .38 Spl or 375 H&H Mag.
Powder costs can be mitigated somewhat in recreational pistol and rifle shooting. For example, using "The Load" (12 gr of Red Dot/Promo) in many military .30 (and similar) calibers yields a load adequate for 200 yard target shooting.
IMO people who enjoy shooting will find ways to continue the hobby. Folks who are/were borderline will have a "valid" excuse to move onto other interests, and that would have occurred anyway. The cost of primers and powder will make that decision sooner.
Don Verna
Just left our local sports store and they have H110 in for
$28.95 a pound
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True, but the price is listed from the factory which is what stores should be selling in it at, not scalper prices. My local gun store has about 50% of what he usually stocks, and his price is under the list or retail price. He's not making a living at it, it's his hobby business, he's only open 13 hrs. a week and deals in cash.
Almost everything I saw at the shop today was around $50 a pound. If it had been $40 I would have walked out with a canister of H110 and Titegroup. Shelves were full and prices were sky high on everything... hopefully things will get more normal...
I'm a big fan of data-driven decisions. You want to make me smile, show me a spreadsheet! Extra points for graphs and best-fit predictive equations.
At our gun show this past weekend, one table had a bunch of powder, but it was all $50/lb. Other tables were from $25 and up.
[QUOTE=762 shooter;5268927]Most Hodgdon powder is out of stock.
10 days ago Guns Unlimited in Omaha had 20 different Hodgdon and Winchester powders in 1# and many larger containers in stock. Few IMR and no Alliant in stock.
I won’t stop shooting. As someone above stated, 200 yard target rounds are plenty doable and affordable using pistol powders, and they can really be stretched, for that.
My bigger concern is that of my kids, as well as the shooting public in general. Maybe it’s just me, but I see reloading equipment for sale out there at very affordable rates. Lee, RCBS, etc., won’t stop producing equipment. My hope is that this drives many folks to at least consider reloading, so that a whole new (big) generation of folks become acquainted with reloading.
I also think that the industry will ramp up production to meet the demand, eventually. Already there are companies that I’ve never heard of producing components for the market. Just the other day I saw that there’s a company out of, I think, Arkansas, selling excess primer production on Gunbroker. Not inexpensive. But it’s a new entrant in the marketplace. If I had the get-up-and-go, and know-how, I’d consider establishing a component manufacturing company. This country could do with more of that, in it’s own right.
8mmFan
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In life: We are given tests, and learn lessons.
OK People. Enough of this idle chit-chat.
This ain't your Grandma's sewing circle.
EVERYONE!
Back to your oars. The Captain wants to waterski.
There is only one Gun Shop here in Long Beach WA. The only Ammo they have is limited to Shot Gun ammo only sold to people who buy a Shot Gun from them. No powders/primers of any kind. The next nearest Shop that used to have primers, powders to sell is 180 mile round trip, but no sense making the trip without calling first. Lead I have, Musket Caps I have, time to start shooting the Muzzle loader a bit more.
The last powder I bought was FFFg (Goex) locally at $25.00 Lb.
Many folks start reloading to stretch their ammo money. When Walmart was selling 9- 115 FMJ for $10 / box I was loading mine for < &5. 9 mm Ammo is well over double that now. But with the component prices we’re seeing I could load 9-115 FMJ target ammo for $10 / box. So the economy is still there. More so with rifle ammo. With inflation, raw materials, shipping and regulatory fees pushing ammo prices up we won’t see Fiocchi 9 mm at $10 / box again. Just hoping when supply catches demand, primers will be less than $65 / thousand.
Back in the old days,
I figured I could cast & reload for the common handgun stuff for about the same price per each as buying premium .22s like CCI Stingers.
At todays prices for components, and high end .22s--- I think that idea is still pretty close to being true.
In school: We learn lessons, and are given tests.
In life: We are given tests, and learn lessons.
OK People. Enough of this idle chit-chat.
This ain't your Grandma's sewing circle.
EVERYONE!
Back to your oars. The Captain wants to waterski.
I've got enough powder, primers and brass to see me through this latest shortage. History has taught me that these things go in cycles. That's why I stocked up during the good times. But this is the worst shortage that I or anybody else has seen. Because of this I've made up my mind: once things get more "normal" I'm not buying powder in 1 pound increments anymore. From now on I'm going to be saving up and purchasing 8 pound jugs. Also, (it may take years - so be it), but once primers become widely available again I'll save up and buy them by the case. Not the box or the "brick", but by the case. There's the old saying "Buy once, cry once". Save up the coin and stock up the provisions.
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BT | Boat Tail | PL | Power-Lokt | SP | Soft Point |
C | Compressed Charge | PR | Primer | SPCL | Soft Point "Core-Lokt" |
HP | Hollow Point | PSPCL | Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" | C.O.L. | Cartridge Overall Length |
PSP | Pointed Soft Point | Spz | Spitzer Point | SBT | Spitzer Boat Tail |
LRN | Lead Round Nose | LWC | Lead Wad Cutter | LSWC | Lead Semi Wad Cutter |
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