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Thread: Better option 44-40 than 43-220C?

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    Better option 44-40 than 43-220C?

    Well I need a 44-40 boolit in the .431 range so the 427098 is out of the question. But I saw the Accurate 43-220C is the 427098 with a crimp groove and I can size to my needs. It will be powder coated, normal lubed, and black powder lubed. How do you think it will work?

    I know some will say the 43-215C but I like the idea of 2 lube grooves vs one large one where rifling cannot make contact.

    Opinions?

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    SAECO #420 (numero uno ++)
    12/14/2015 16:15hrs/HvyDusk/LightRain
    UBERTI "1873" 44-40 ** 2.2cc heaping size:0.429/Lube 2½:1 Crisco:Beeswax)
    SAECO #420/206gr(30:1)/GOEX FFFg (3Fg))/36.0gr**/StarlineCase/FedLrgPstl
    Vibrated Down/0.030"VegWad/~⅛" Compression(0.289"ShankDepth) OAL=1.60"(-)

    UBERTI "1873" 44-40 h=117.7 size:0.429"size/Lym50-50)
    SAECO #420/206gr(30:1)/UNIQUE/8.1gr/RemCase/FedLrgPstl
    QL24"13,907psi/1,322fps (act =1,200fps) OAL = 1.590"
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    then...
    SAECO #446

    But in Tom's moulds, the 43-220M would be my choice if soft lubed/BP were involved
    Last edited by mehavey; 09-19-2021 at 04:04 AM.

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    If you intend to shoot black powder the 43-215C has adequate lube capacity to prevent foul-out with Goex powder. The 43-200M as mentioned also good. Have no experience with powder coating so cannot address that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mehavey View Post
    but in tom's moulds, the 43-220m would be my choice if soft lubed/bp were involved
    43-220m?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Outpost75 View Post
    The 43-200M as mentioned also good. Have no experience with powder coating so cannot address that.
    Where are you guys seeing these 200M and 220Ms?

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    Would you believe.. . . . 43-219M ?
    (what's a grain between friends?)



    also check 43-215C

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    I agree with you on the #43-220C for PC - Smokeless.
    But for BP, I think Outpost75 is right about the John Kort design. I bought a 2cav #43-215C mold just for BP use. I have to size to .430 to fit in My 1873's chamber. I use a LubeSizer to size only and pan lube with home made lube.
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    Can someone tell me the main difference in the 43-215C and the 43-220M?

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    If you mean the 43-219M, it's the larger amount of grease the 'M' can carry down the barrel.

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