So this is how I do it. I've tried a lot of different methods and combinations. This works the best by far. Seems to be very reliable. Next step is shooting live ammo.
https://youtu.be/xTJ3HzTtxrU
I give credit to a fellow board member who reloads 22lr for giving me the idea to strip the material way from the paper. It makes a big difference.
The magic number is 9 caps.