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    Getting Better Results

    I shake and bake my PC bullets with Smokes powder. I use black BB's in a smaller container.
    My boolits are acceptable but the coating is an uneven coat. I would like to get a thicker more even coat.
    What are the secrets to getting a thicker more even coat?
    I have read a larger bowl can be helpful, is that true? How many black BB'S?
    I am coating 9MM bullets in 120 and 125 g. and 158 g. RN.

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    I used a Lyman brass cleaner with airsoft bb’s [3 years]
    Did a nice job, but I wanted to use the powder and color I liked. Not married to a brand
    Got the Harbor electrostatic and built a turn table powder coater contained in plastic storage box from WW
    Center ground comes up thru the middle of container lid for ground clip
    Cut hole in side of container for gun
    Table turns one time and they are done
    Can do candies now and they are beautiful
    Tried some powders that didn’t do good vibrating
    Stuck like glue with new system
    AND there is no dust, or waste. All stays in WWorld container
    I will post pictures if you guys like
    Used a turntable used to put statues and like in China cabinets for display
    I would never go back to rattling
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    Dave 45-90

    I would love to see a few pics of your setup. Sounds too simple!

    Thanks

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    It is. And I love it
    In my shop
    Will post pictures later today
    No powder wasted, non floating in air and on me. Tilt the Wally World container and scoop powder back in container
    The rotary turn table makes it soooooo neat
    The ground rod goes thru a small hole in lid for gator clip
    Hold gun thru hole in side of container
    1 rotation and it’s finished
    I really think I could get sawdust to stick
    The container maintains a thick cloud of pc
    Nothing escapes
    You could do it in living room. Although mom would throw me out on my ear
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    I’ve found if you want a thicker coating it won’t usually turn out as smooth as a thin coat. You can always do a second or even third coat if you want. I normally size after PCing so the sides are smoothed out. It reduces grease groves, but you shouldn’t really need them with PC.

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ID:	288116Took a couple pictures

    I dont use rotating pan in oven I just pull pan out by ground stem and take the pc Boolits off with right angle needle foreceps. Foil stays clean and powder isnt wasted
    Brass screw soldered to pan for a real good ground on brass rod
    Brass Ground rod is brass sleeved on the end for the gator clip
    I know its energized well cause the Boolits pull the powder to them like an electromagnet
    Im happy
    All holes are close tolerance
    Turntable cord is hot melted glued around hole
    Total investment 100 bucks
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ID:	288122. The Boolit liner upper
    The gun. Harbor Freight
    The pans WWorld
    Turntable Amazon
    Brass rod. Mcmaster. I machined and threaded the end of brass rod . Used brass tube as sleeve
    Plastic storage container WWorld
    Powder Fleabay
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    Why do you want a thicker coat? I try to get as thin a coat as I can.

    If you want a thick coating then go to a gun.

    S&B is more for thinner coats and works well for that. You can do two coats if you really need a thicker coat.

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    It’s not a thick coat. Matter of fact it’s a little thinner and more even than my old way 1 coat. The edges are sharp and the grooves are not filled
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    Wow, those look great. If lazy don’t take over I might have to follow your lead on that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iwsbull View Post
    Wow, those look great. If lazy don’t take over I might have to follow your lead on that.
    Pretty slick. So easy and results never vary. AND no matter what powder you use. It sticks and passes the smash test
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    You have to use a PC that will coat in a tub to get good results, if not a good PC, you have to electrostatically apply it to get it to adhere.

    Something I do after the tub shake is dump the whole contents on a cookie sheet. I grab one end and shake it gently back and forth to make the casts roll in the powder. That supercoats the sides where they bump into each other in the tub and leave bare marks. Mine coat so thick I have to tap each cast on the edge of the pan to knock the excess PC off.



    I use a black gloss mixed 50-50 with a non gloss white by Sherwin Williams...together they do a fine job. I used to coat in multiple colors but so many bowls and BB's or poly-pellets were required that it got to be too much. I gave all the colors to a NEWB back east.
    Now all I PC with is my 'Old Lead' blend...each time I add a little PC to the tub the color of grey changes...that's all the variety I need.

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    Looking Good How do the Candy Apples do
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    I never tried any candy type stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OS OK View Post
    I never tried any candy type stuff.
    Never worked well for me till I went with electrostatic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dave 45-90 View Post
    Never worked well for me till I went with electrostatic.
    I think those colors are just beautiful,



    but between metal working, wood working, casting & loading (and me being a 'pack rat') I just don't have any room for a spray rig and small booth in the shop. All 3 garages are stuffed full. Besides I'm lazy about the coatings anymore, I just want to get them done, heck after all it's just a lube job we are doing.
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    Real beauties u have there
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    Quote Originally Posted by dave 45-90 View Post
    Real beauties u have there
    They aren't mine Dave...I copied the picture from somewhere? I wanted to keep it because they were so dang beautiful! If I could do that without electrostatic gear, I'd be all over it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dave 45-90 View Post
    The Boolit liner upper
    The gun. Harbor Freight
    The pans WWorld
    Turntable Amazon
    Brass rod. Mcmaster. I machined and threaded the end of brass rod . Used brass tube as sleeve
    Plastic storage container WWorld
    Powder Fleabay
    Dave, how close can you put the boolits next to each other and still get good powder coverage down to the base? I really like your tub rig and might try it with a 5gal bucket.

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    I like to use an hexagon shaped tub from Costco that had jelly beans in it. I just dump in bullets about half way and pour in a couple tablespoons of powder (no BB's) and put it into my tumbler for around an hour. They are usually perfectly coated and you cant wipe it off if you tried.
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    If Im in a hurry I use a cool whip container (still no BBs) with a little bit of powder and I swirl and turn for a few minutes. They usually dont turn out fully covered but it you wear the nitrile gloves from harbor freight you can turn the bullets in your fingers and it coats the rest of the bullet, even in the grooves.
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    I just pick them up with the gloves and roll them between my fingers until fully coated and bake for 45 minutes.

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