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Thread: Do 45ACP Shot Shells Only Work In 1911??

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    Do 45ACP Shot Shells Only Work In 1911??

    Have loaded many shot shells for revolvers in various calibers. I have been thinking about trying to load up some 45ACP shot shells, but it seems that many of them reference that it functions only in a 1911. I don't have a 1911 currently and don't want to waste my time on a project that I can't use.

    So my questions is.... will the 45ACP shot shells function in any 45ACP Auto?

    I plan on making the shells using 308 cases and the 41mag style. If they work, I can have a set of dies made.

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    I can't see any reason they wouldn't work in another design. You are making a custom load, make it to work in your gun.

    I also don't remember anything on CCI factory shot shells saying they won't work in anything except a 1911, although it has been a while since I saw any on store shelves.

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    Up because of pain but 45acp is used in revolvers like my Blackhawk and semi's like my Marlin camp. I may not be thinking clearly and apologize if I totally missed the question.

    Sorry missed the shot shells portion. Told ya was in pain.
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    I didn't have any luck with them in a Glock, cycle fine in the 1911.

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    I’ve made them from 30-06 brass. I trimmed the brass to the length of a loaded 45 ACP semi wadcutter. Then I sized the neck with a 40 cal die to the point the empty brass head spaced on the rifling. After loading an appropriate combination of powder/cardboard wad and shot, I rolled the neck slightly with a 38 die over a cardboard wad with a liberal amount to Elmer’s glue. Loads would function in my 1911. It’s been some time but the powder was either Bulls Eye or Unique

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    Only .45 I tried using the CCI shotshells in was a 1911 so don't know. Got some 7.62mm blank cases that I intend to cut down for the same thing. Good .308/7.62 brass gets used in the .308 rifle. Can't use those blanks cases for anything else in my collection.

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    Thanks for the responses...I was wondering if they would function in a non-1911 pistol, such as Glock, Beretta, Kimber, Springfield, etc. It sounds like no one has made the shot shells and got them to function in a non-1911 pistol. I guess I'm going have to try and see if it can be done....challenge accepted

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    Not sure what the difference would be for Glocks, Berettas and so on. What am I missing?

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    Not sure what the difference would be for Glocks, Berettas and so on. What am I missing?
    That's exactly why I asked, because most write ups call it "45ACP shot shells for 1911" vs "45ACP shot shells". Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but I had to ask.

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    All of the magazine or book articles I can think of were written when the 1911 was the only common semi-auto in .45 ACP.

    Don't worry about asking questions, much better than having a meeting with St Peter when things don't work.

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    I think Mk42gunner nailed it. I haven’t tried it, but will for sure in my M&Ps. I’ll probably use 45 Win Mag cases - got that idea from another thread on this forum - purely for curiosity sake.

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    They work ok in two Glocks that they were tried in.
    Older recoil springs, but with a brand new recoil spring you may need to cut back on powder to adjust.
    Glock barrels can give big problems with cast bullets too.
    Glocks are hardball only.

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    CCI factory 45 ACP shotshells work fine in Colt Lightweight Officers Model(3.5" barrel), an XDS, a 1937 S&W Brazil 45 ACP and double stack Para Ord 12-45(3.5" barrel).

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    Besides using the 45 ACP shot shells I make out of 7.62 blanks in my 1911 type pistols I also use them in my two 45 ACP revolvers; the S&W M197/25 and the Uberti Evil Roy SA w/45 ACP cylinder. They work fine. I cut the 7.62 blanks to 45 ACP loaded round OAL and then, with a UniMat lathe, turn the "bullet" part back half the thickness of the case to where the 45 ACP case mouth would be. That way the case headspaces correctly. Of course i use half moon clips with the S&W but they still headspace fine w/o the half moon clips.

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    When the 45 shot loads were reverse engineered from WW2 survival loads (1980's), the other common 45acp's were revolvers. And the original load was a trimmed Remington 410 wad full of shot over 6.2 grains of 231 in a 1.180" case. The case was sized in a RCBS custom die that created a shoulder for headspacing. These were made from commercial .308 cases. 30-06 cases, with a smaller extractor groove, were rough on 1911 extractors.
    These loads would often set back the headspacing shoulder and tie up a revolver's cylinder. They still will. Recent 45 autos shouldn't have this problem.

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    I’ve built them out of cut down .308 brass and they would operate my 1911. I had a RCBS .45 shotshell case forming die set, used 410 shot wads and #9 shot. They never worked well in revolvers in my experience, with the longer case they were hard to extract.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crandall crank View Post
    Thanks for the responses...I was wondering if they would function in a non-1911 pistol, such as Glock, Beretta, Kimber, Springfield, etc. It sounds like no one has made the shot shells and got them to function in a non-1911 pistol. I guess I'm going have to try and see if it can be done....challenge accepted
    Kimber and Springfield are 1911 pistols

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    I tried the CCI aluminum case shotshells in a convertible. 45 Blackhawk and they binded the cylinder upon firing. They worked fine in my old Ballester.

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    I have some old Remington 45 ACP shot cartridges and it says do not fire them in a revolver. I think the CCI says the same, but am not certain.
    Disclaimer: The above is not holy writ. It is just my opinion based on my experience and knowledge. Your mileage may vary.

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    When fired in a revolver tye cases set back forcefully and jam the cylinder.
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