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Thread: 45 colt w/216-227 gr cast projectiles

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    45 colt w/216-227 gr cast projectiles

    Hey All
    I have been scouring and searching but cannot find any info for loading the following 3 cast out of my Ruger New Model Blackhawk.
    (note all three came out of the same mould - just different pins). All three are powder coated with flat base and no gas check.
    227 Gr SWC FP
    222 Gr SWC Cup
    216 Gr SWC HP

    I have looked at the Hodgdon and Lyman Cast Bullet 4th Ed for recipes. Here is what I found listed that doesnt exactly match what I have.

    Hodgdon
    215 Gr Cast LRNFP CFE-Pistol 8.2-9.5 Gr/Titegroup 6.2-7.2 Gr
    230 Gr Cast LRNFP Titegroup 5.8-6.5 Gr
    250 Gr Cast LRNFP CFE-Pistol 8.4-9.2 Gr/Titegroup 5.0-6.2 Gr (threw this one as it listed CFE while the 230 Gr did not)

    Lyman
    230 Gr Cast Titegroup 5.3-6.7 Gr

    I am trying to figure out a starting point with my 227Gr FP and work up a load and then use it for the lighter projectiles to see how they perform. Any starting suggestions would be most welcome. (NOTE- the only listed powders in both sources that I have are CFE-Pistol and Titegroup - so please do not recommend other powders as they are unobtainable right now.)
    TIA
    rdwarrior

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    I've used 5.5grs TiteGroup under a Lee 225gr TC for 25?yrs.

    Hodgdon Cowboy Pamphlet (1/03) list Titegroup; 5.0-6.5grs for a 225gr - 230gr Bullet.

    As long as seating depth is not radically different. I used this load with Saeco, Lee, RCBS, Lyman & Magma bullets interchangeably, with never a problem.
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    I loaded a very similar cast hp bullet in 45acp. I tested it with a Springfield 5" 1911a1. Impact velocity in the 850-900 fps area. It destroyed the 1st water jug punched a leak in the 2nd jug but did not penetrate the jug. Depends what you are looking for. I used the MP Mold 453490 with the large hp.

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    Use starting data for the heavy boolits. .45 is easy to load for if you don't try to max it out. While I run a few max unique loads it is rare. I enjoy the .225-230 cowboy loads.

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BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
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