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Thread: 45 70 with pistol boolits

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    Boolit Master
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    45 70 with pistol boolits

    anyone try this ??200 to 255gr boolits designed for pistols
    with a mold that drops .458 to .460

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    Someone probably has. The issue would be a pistol mold which would drop a bullet large enough. I have a single cavity Lyman mold which drops the 195 grain 45 ACP target bullet at .459" as I recall. I haven't had the opportunity to try it under a small charge of Bullseye or Red Dot but have thought about it many times. The closest I have read about which I recall is the 45-70 "Collar Button" bullet, a gallery bullet. I think I remember it weights about 180 grains.
    Good Luck,
    Rick

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    I really want to get a collar button mold to save on lead for plinking rounds. If I had a pistol round that was throwing a tad oversized rounds I would do this. Unfortunately I don’t have one. What profile mold are you thinking about?

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    I’ve loaded .457 round balls in 45/70 cartridges with squib loads…….worked okay!

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    This question comes up often.

    I learned here
    that I could paper patch a 200 gr SWC sized
    .454 and use it in my 45-70. It's a hoot to shoot,
    deadly on close in groundhogs and I just giggle
    at the confetti at the end of the barrel.

    Another option is to powder coat a 45 ACP boolit
    up to proper size. This is a less tedious process.
    In either case you can use what you have.

    Read the sections about paper patching and
    powder coating right here on this site and
    get in on the fun!

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    The "collar button" nick name is often used to describe the Lyman #452389 (Lyman says it's 185 gr.). I don't know if it is still available from Lyman: however, the Accurate #5-180L is available & they'll make it to any diameter requested.

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    The "collar button" I have is the Lyman 457130./beagle
    diplomacy is being able to say, "nice doggie" until you find a big rock.....

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