Opinions? There is a very basic one in good shape used near me that is priced so cheap I almost can't see how I can afford not to pick it up.
Opinions? There is a very basic one in good shape used near me that is priced so cheap I almost can't see how I can afford not to pick it up.
Theres one at the range I go to for sale. New in 243 for $300. I don't think you could really go wrong with that. I just don't know if I want a 243. Ive got a 223 bolt, a 270 bolt, and a 30-30 lever. What say everyone? Should we dive?
nobody here is going to talk anybody OUT of a gun. you guys let us know how they shoot lead please eh
I like the ATR. My wife presented me one in .30-06 as a gift just after they came out. It has downed several deer and a couple ground hogs. I've only shot factory ammo through it. No problems with 150's or 180's. I've since added a couple more ATR's, a couple of the Maverick versions and a couple Patriots. Calibers in .243 and .270 along with the .30-06. Never had one fail in any way and they all shoot excellent. 1 1/2 3-shot groups are pretty much the norm with an occasional 1- 1/14 group. I do change out the factory scope bases and replace with Weavers. The factory bases just don't look beefy enough to me.
Isaac
Don't have an ATR but a MVP 223. It is bottle cap capable with 3x9 glass. Not as slick as other bolt guns but still a good shooter. I've head shot a squirrel or two at 50-60 yards. I'm guessing the two models could be similar in quality and ability. I say buy it.
What cartridge is it chambered for? I've never been a .270 fan, but if it's a bargain......I'd ease up on that outlook.
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I have an MVP Predator in .223. At the time, I wanted the variant they called The Patrol Rifle but none to be had anywhere. BAsically the same rifle minus the flash supressor and with a laminate stock. Good rifle but so far hasn't shot as well as my 1980s vintage plain jane Savage 110 in .223 does routinely.
So, are the ATVs the same basic action as the Patriots? The Patriots I have handled seem good.
I bought one new for $199. That's the market they were designed for.
[The Montana Gianni] Front sight and squeeze
My wife has one in 243 and it is an excellent shooter producing sub-MOA groups easily for her with my CB's.
To paraphrase Ronald Reagan, the trouble with many shooting experts is not that they're ignorant; its just that they know so much that isn't so.
Looking at Mossberg's web site, it doesn't look like they are still in production?
This one was in Scheel's in Des Moines while I was there, priced at $169, probably a customer return, didn't ask. I'm sure buying from a place like Shceel's is like buying from Wal Mart, a lot of trouble. Didn't really need another .270, only ever owned one, it's a weird caliber and the only reason I have one is because it came as part of a bundle with something I wanted and the only kind of ammo that never sold out at our local Wal Mart was .270. It did sell out this time so maybe that rifle wasn't such a smart buy after all. Just never understood the weirdo bore size and the fact that anything it does, the .30-06 did better.
Good to know about the ATRs, if another presents itself cheap, hopefully in a batter chambering, might have to give it some consideration.
Bullet drop.
I don't mean to be contrary, but ive shot a few thousand cast through my 270 and love it! Its a fun caliber that can go 1000fps to 2000fps with lead, and 3000fps with jacketed. And its a laser at full gallop.
bought two of them. A 20 inch 243 for one of the grandkids and an O6 used that was to cheap to pass. Both were darned good shooting guns. With loads they liked moa. I dont know about there finishes or maybe what quality steel they use but the o6 got duracoated and about 6 months later rust was bleeding through the duracoat everywhere. I cleaned the steel real well and degreased it before painting. All i can think is there was alot of impurities in the steel.
Seems most of the entry level cheap rifles shoot very well, I sure know this Ruger American I have does, and I hear similar about the Savage Axis, etc.
I probably should have bought it if for no other reason than I've been meaning to have JES rebore a rifle to have a .35 Whelen for a while and can't seem to bring myself to do it to the Mauser sporter I intended to.
Interesting about the Duracoat. Have you ever seen that happen to anything else? I have no experience with it, but have a couple of work horse guns I've been considering doing it to.
Bought a .308 at a local academy for like $300 with a generic scope about 5 years ago.
Shoots fine with reloads but a bit tight on the chamber so I ended up resizing with a redding body die. No issues ever since.
Broke the extractor (probably due to previous hard extraction tight fitting reloads) & sent a customer service request.
They mailed me an extractor, couple of springs & detent balls in no time. I don't exactly remember but I think Remington did the fulfillment of the warranty service.
Still in my safe.
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BP | Bronze Point | IMR | Improved Military Rifle | PTD | Pointed |
BR | Bench Rest | M | Magnum | RN | Round Nose |
BT | Boat Tail | PL | Power-Lokt | SP | Soft Point |
C | Compressed Charge | PR | Primer | SPCL | Soft Point "Core-Lokt" |
HP | Hollow Point | PSPCL | Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" | C.O.L. | Cartridge Overall Length |
PSP | Pointed Soft Point | Spz | Spitzer Point | SBT | Spitzer Boat Tail |
LRN | Lead Round Nose | LWC | Lead Wad Cutter | LSWC | Lead Semi Wad Cutter |
GC | Gas Check |