Well today I loaded up the factory Hornet ammo I shot off, my hat is off to those who this cartridge often as it is a fiddly game to play. I found less is best when it comes to lube on the case and inside de burring is a must. In spite of the difficulty it is a wonderful round to play with. Now that I have some formed shells it is time to try cast from the CBE mould I have, I think a specially made belling button will be necessary with cast. Regards Stephen