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Thread: '44 special in 44 mag' vs 44-40

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    12 grains of HS-6 under a 240 gr. boolit will get you into that fps range nicely in the .44 mag. Shoots great out of my Blackhawk and would be very pleasant out of a rifle. You can really tailor your loads with a .44 mag.

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    Any new 44-40's are .429
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    Quote Originally Posted by sharps4590 View Post
    Any new 44-40's are .429
    Or LARGER!

    My 1993 Marlin 1894S is .432,
    1977 Cdn. Winchester '94 and recent production Rossi Brazi-Tech Miami, FL gun, S&W 544 Texas Wagon Train and Ruger Vaquero are all .430

    I shoot soft 8-10 BHN bullets sized .430 in ALL of my .44-40s, even in my 1920 Colt New Service and 1905 Colt SA.

    Key is to cast chambers and determine what diameter of chamber NECK is to see if there is sufficient release clearance for the larger bullets.

    Older Colts, S&W 544, Marlin 1894S, El Tigre and Rossi all have .447-.448 chamber neck diameter, being fine with a .430 bullet in Starline brass.

    My 1992 Ruger Vaquero had tight .4445 chamber necks, .425" cylinder throats and .430 barrel groove diameter and wouldn't shoot for sour apples until I had John Taylor rechamber the cylinder with the reamer he uses to do his relined antique 1873 Winchesters. Chambers are now .447 neck with .4305 diameter ball seat, and charge holes line-bored to .430, so it now shoots like a rifle!
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    Quote Originally Posted by stef76 View Post
    More 44/40 ammo than 44mag? Not in my part of rural Australia. Generally 44mag has at least a dozen loads imported here. 44-40 is usually just a couple cowboy loads. This pre-covid of course, not even sure what is available right now.
    we have a couple active blackpowder groups maybe is the difference -- whatever - its a hairsplit between these two and comes down to the pressure handling ability of the guns. 44/40 will do anything the 44mag will do in an equal frame. You might assume I get a little tired of blokes derogatizing the original round for no good reason, you'd be right!

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BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
GC Gas Check