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Thread: Chilean Model 1895 Mauser 7.62 Nato

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    Chilean Model 1895 Mauser 7.62 Nato

    When Century Arms in Vermont was selling off a bunch of junk I bought two of these Chilean Model 1895 Mauser rifles chambered in 7.62 Nato. In examining I noticed a silver colored ring at the breech of the barrel. Probably not real noticeable to a lot of fellows but I can be inquisitive at times. Having a vertical milling machine in the shop made this a no-brainer. I removed the barrel and sectioned the breech end of the barrel. Apparently this was a 1st in internet history. My webpage on this rifle has been online for twenty years and is heavily visited.
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    This conversion was a matter of military expediency. Lots of rifles in an obsolete caliber. What to do? Cheap solution was to re-purpose them in the current caliber of 7.62x51 Nato. Was it a good solution? For them it was. For shooters in the 20th century..... not so good. I'll leave the debate to others since my mind is long ago made up. If you have one of these and want to shoot it I suggest only cast bullets with moderate pressure levels. And I'd bet money they'll fail a field headspace gage.

    I also cut off the receiver barrel threads to show better the bolt lug races, upper and lower, showing lug set-back. This happens when the bolt lugs push back heavily and repeatedly into the lug races. This is one of the main causes of excessive headspace. It turns a rifle into a piece of wall art.

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    Prior to the Gun Control Act of 1968 rifles like this one were imported in as-new, unissued condition like this one below. Today, in 2021, this rifle would bring over $1,500, IMO. Could be closer to $1,800.

    This Chilean 1895 is a beautifully manufactured rifle that takes second place to no other rifle. They were manufactured by Ludwig Loewe and later DWM. In my opinion the Ludwig Loewe firearms were the finest firearms manufactured by the hand of man. The quality and workmanship was as good as was humanly possible. And that was in 1895. They were manufactured into 1902 and differ from Model 1893 in a couple features so they are not identical to the Model 1893 Mauser. Original caliber was 7x57 Mauser.

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    I bought one of these many, many years ago and after doing some research, probably some of your findings, prompted me to quickly sell my “308 Win” rifle.

    Good to see you posting it here again.
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    That is so incredibly Mickey Mouse. What is holding the chamber insert in place? Is that just a press-fit interference?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 358429 View Post
    That is so incredibly Mickey Mouse. What is holding the chamber insert in place? Is that just a press-fit interference?

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    I also think that the 1895 Chilean Mauser was a very well made and designed small ring. I have two of these actions that I bought years ago for about $40 each. Luck smiled and both of them came with hinged floorplates. One of them is being turned into a sporter in 6.5x55, and the other will also become a sporting rifle in 7.65x53. The craftsmanship that Ludwig Loewe put into these is top notch.

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    What did they do about bore diameter? Were these originally 7mm or 7.65?

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    I've had one of these in 7x57 since 1975. It has no crest, a hinged floorplate and a mismatched 1893 bolt.
    However headspace is perfect. First time I shot it I used a light cast load at 50yrds. Had a bit of a problem, 1st round was in the 9ring at 6 O' clock. Couldn't find the 2nd shot, tried a 3rd shot. That's when I realized all 3 shots were in one hole.

    I converted it to a Scout Rifle, still shoots as great as ever. They are Beautifully made Rifles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kr54 View Post
    What did they do about bore diameter? Were these originally 7mm or 7.65?
    The 1895 Chilean was originally 7x57mm. The 7.62 Nato conversions were re-bored and rifled.

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    Other than the flat bottomed bolt face on the 1893, are there other differences (excluding crests and stampings) between the 1893 and 1895 actions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texas by God View Post
    Other than the flat bottomed bolt face on the 1893, are there other differences (excluding crests and stampings) between the 1893 and 1895 actions?

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    The receivers themselves are different. The 1895 has a wide rear tang (see photo) compared to the 1893. The receiver also has a "notch" for the bolt handle visible in this image.

    An 1895 bolt will fit and function in a 1893 model. I don't think I tried the 93 bolt in a 95 rifle.

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    1893 model on left, 1895 model on right.


    More info: https://castboolits.gunloads.com/sho...-v-1895-Mauser

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    Thank you, Dutchman. I love learning more about Mausers of all types.

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    There are two main differences between a '93 bolt and a '95 bolt. First, and most obvious, is that the '93 bolt has a square "chin". At the time it was produced Mauser thought that this chin would assist in stripping rounds from the magazine. It was later discovered that the chin was unnecessary, and it was omitted from later designs. Though a '95 bolt will fit in both a '93 and a '95 receiver, a bolt from an 1893 Mauser will only fit into a '93. (The chin can be ground off - then it will fit in a '95)
    The second difference is that the top edge of the bolt face on a '93 has a relief cut in it that makes removing and installing the extractor very easy. The '95 and all subsequent Mauser's lack this relief cut, making the removal and installation of the extractor include choice cuss words accompanied with the possibility of a cut finger. The '93 bolt fully supports the extractor during primary extraction, but all later models fully support the extractor all the time. I had read somewhere that the extraction mechanism on a '98 was designed so that, in the event of a severely stuck case, the butt of the rifle could be placed against the ground and a 300 pound man could stomp on the bolt handle without damaging the action.

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    I remember seeing similar work with Spanish Mausers. I remember reading this. I sure miss the days of buying 93 Mausers for next to nothing. They, and Enfield's used to be everywhere.

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    I have always been leery of the small ring Mausers in .308.....your findings are scary.
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    Years back I bought four Spanish '93s in 7.62.
    They cleaned up nicely and shot well, and made excellent cast bullet shooters, requiring only a little Dremel polishing on the claw extractors to function flawlessly.
    Still have one rebuilt and one to grease-paper, have not seen 'em in years.
    Need to get it shooting again.
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    i have two 1916 ('93) spanish mausers. the one is going to 6.5x55 swede(she has gone to the gunsmith already). it will be my youngest son's rifle. i have a 1895 chilean navy mauser action but i don't know what chamber it will have.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 444ttd View Post
    i have two 1916 ('93) spanish mausers. the one is going to 6.5x55 swede(she has gone to the gunsmith already). it will be my youngest son's rifle. i have a 1895 chilean navy mauser action but i don't know what chamber it will have.


    I always wanted to build a 250-3000 Savage, or 35 Rem(16" barrel) with one. Unfortunately, others wanted it more than me. I think that 35 would be a sweet pig gun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimkim View Post
    I always wanted to build a 250-3000 Savage, or 35 Rem(16" barrel) with one. Unfortunately, others wanted it more than me. I think that 35 would be a sweet pig gun.

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    the other 93 spanish will be a 257 roberts. i've always wanted one, but you know how life is.
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    I've seen this a lot: People will think that they've got an 1895 Chilean "Navy" rifle because of the "anchor" stamped on the receiver. It's not an anchor, and it's not a navy rifle. The rifle was made by Ludwig Loewe in the 1890's for the Chilean army. In old German the letter "L" looks like a "J". That stamp that looks like an anchor is actually two letter L's back to back. It was the trademark for Ludwig Loewe.

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