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Thread: Are Guns considered communal property in a marriage?

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    If she has acquired expensive jewelry since the wedding, but you have never worn it, is it half yours in a divorce?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Half Dog View Post
    Would she still be entitled to half of the guns even if she cannot legally own one?
    It’s not about the guns, or the pans, or the jewelry, it’s about negotiation of the value of those things. If you have $20k in guns and $20k in jewelry in the marital estate it might be easy, or one/both of you may be a stubborn cuss intent on giving as much as possible to the lawyers. Each one is different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ioon44 View Post
    What is hers is hers and what is mine is hers, according to my wife.
    I always said "What's thine is mine, and what's mine is me own." Unfortunately, the law doesn't usually agree with that. I have heard California's Divorce laws described as being akin to slavery if you're the guy. She gets what she wants. I know it worked that way for my BIL, and they didn't have kids. Nevada did not do things that way when I was a resident there, and got a divorce. They went for a 50/50 split, negotiated. If you can negotiate the split, the "Uncontested Divorce" is cheaper. They don't, however, do percentages. You have to specify a dollar value for property. She got the .38S&W Iver Johnson Breaktop revolver that had been my first "I bought it myself" handgun. We're in Oklahoma now, for the past 25 years, been married to the new-and-improved wife for nearly 39 years. If we get a divorce, I'm pretty sure I owe her half of everything. Which, these days, ain't very much. Cheaper for both of us if we stay together. I'm OK with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GregLaROCHE View Post
    Are guns considered communal property when you are married? When I got divorced in Alaska, the guns I owned previously were considered mine, but ones bought during the marriage, were considered 50% hers even though she almost never shot one and of course they were all registered in my name. It’s not like she was an avid shooter like some guys are lucky enough to be married to. Is the law the same in all states? Should young guys consider having a prenuptial agreement regarding the guns they buy during a marriage?
    Not if they were "lost in a boating accident"

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    Quote Originally Posted by lksmith View Post
    Not if they were "lost in a boating accident"
    ....... then those guns are like the “dog buried out back”!

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    Quote Originally Posted by marlin39a View Post
    Best advice? Never get married.
    Right on, right on, right on!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannyd View Post
    Now there’s one thing I will never understand you get divorced and go through all that pain, but get married again. I have been married 43 years and could never imagine getting married again if I got divorced.
    Agreed. Learned the first time after 30 years together. My gf and I live together. No need to get married again. Both of us are divorced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GregLaROCHE View Post
    I’ve been married three times. I think finally got a keeper.
    Oh no, no no no - once is ENOUGH for me!

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    As has been said, it depends on your States laws. Guns and such are no different than TV sets and pots and pans.......they ain't nothing but property in the eyes of the law.
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    A wife here took 1/2 the value of her ex's gun collection and even filed a protection order to see the guns taken and held till the hearing effectively keeping him from his yearly deer hunt. In addition she got one half of his collection of gun books and took them to the thrift shop and sold them for next to nothing with the specification and he could not buy them back and the shop owner would tell him how much they the selling price was. A mint first edition of Sixguns for $2 ect.

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    Yep. But if you have to consider a prenup, you might want to rethink the whole marriage thing.
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    Alaska is a equal split state for things acquired during the marriage. Things bought before the marriage belong to the one bringing them into the marriage. However the judge has the final say on some things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marlin39a View Post
    Best advice? Never get married.
    Second Best Advice ... Never Get Divorced .

    Think about it !
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    Quote Originally Posted by ioon44 View Post
    What is hers is hers and what is mine is hers, according to my wife.
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    Texas Law: All property acquired after marriage, other than by gift, devise or descent, is Community Property.
    Disclaimer: The above is not holy writ. It is just my opinion based on my experience and knowledge. Your mileage may vary.

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    I have a similar question that cannot be answered on the internet...

    Should firearms be held in an irrevocable trust?

    SWMBO and I are elderly.
    When the "Gunshow Loophole" closes, and it likely will,
    how will a person inherit a firearm?
    Again, it will be state law, but...

    If I am incompetent because of Alzheimer's, dementia, or a bad cough,
    and somebody "Red Flags" me, who gets the guns?

    If I leave a firearm to someone in my will,
    that will is a public document.
    Someday this may well require a 4473.

    An irrevocable trust is forever, the firearms belong to the trustee(s)
    to do as they please, buy or sell. I would have to trust the trustee(s).

    It may be that this house should belong to a trust.
    Has anyone taken this path? This might foul up a divorce nicely.
    It's certainly all lawyer stuff...

    Thanks for thinking about it.

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    i had to sell quite a few guns in my divorce, besides, i had to pay my lawyer and it was her divorce!!!!!! i'd say here in PA, its a 75/25 and you know who is 25? a guy.

    your best bet is to buy a woman for a hour or two. they don't complain, they tell you what you want to hear and they make a sammich before they leave.

    the only good thing that came from my marriage is two sons that i just love.

    third best advice, which i follow, is never, never, never get married.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Half Dog View Post
    Would she still be entitled to half of the guns even if she cannot legally own one?
    No but she would be entitled to half their value. You could have half the value of her jewels and shoes.
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    On this board, such threads will in time, turn to woman bashing and it doesn't take long for me to get enough of it. There have been many women in my life, starting with my mother and grandmother. Then there were the aunts and family friends. Teachers both public school and Sunday School. All of these women cared for me, raised me and transmitted great values to my life. If you woman bashers would just think for a bit about the positive influence women had on your life, maybe you would accord them the respect they are due.

    I have known my wife since 1950. We were great friends all though our lives. I love her, enjoy her company and would marry her again in a heart beat. Women are somewhat different than men in some ways, but they are in no way less than men. I have done many hours of marriage counseling (as the counselor) and you should hear the horror stories some can tell about their experience with men. Good marriages require work and folks willing to admit they they need to work on themselves. Finger pointing and blaming is what keeps Divorce Lawyers in business. It is a smarmy line of work, but it pays well.
    Disclaimer: The above is not holy writ. It is just my opinion based on my experience and knowledge. Your mileage may vary.

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    I wish my exes the best and lived and learned though all the ups and downs, believe it or not no matter what they take if you keep your eyes straight ahead and shoulder to the wheel you can always make more money to replace stuff. no matter what they or you get its either not enough or too much, if you got your health your one step up on life. I don't think there are too many that get married who are not in love, but when that love sours it sure aint no fun

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