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    Trigger Pull

    I wish there were a better topic to post this, because I doesn’t concern only factory rifles, but all rifles or smooth bores.

    There was recently posted a poll regarding trigger pull for handguns. That made me think it would be interesting to know what members think about trigger pull for long guns. I haven’t understood how to make a poll, maybe someone would like to make one. It could be interesting. For sure there is a difference between hunting, plinking and target shooting.

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    i prefer 2-3 lbs on my rifles except my target rifles then 8 ounces

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    Just a little more than a feather touch for my target rifles.

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    around 3lbs for my rifles. 5 - 7lbs is my military sporters(2 stage trigger).
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    A 2lb pull suits me fine; heavier isn't bad as long as it is crisp. I don't want a pull under 3-4 pounds on my AR15s- except the long barreled one......

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    Crisp 3-3 1/2lb pull on a rifle is about perfect for me.

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    I have triggers from 1 ounces to about 5 pounds depending on the application. Without the application can't give a meaningful answer.
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    No creep and not super heavy. If it is consistent I can deal with it.

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    Maybe I've shot way too many two stage triggers, but to me crisp is better than light.

    Creep that you can detect is bad, mushy is even worse.

    If it feels like the trigger on a Very pistol, it will be awful hard to shoot consistent groups.

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    One of my best factory OEM triggers is on a Remington 700 (old school) and I do not believe a gun smith had ever touched it up. It is 2.75 lbs but crisp as a new 100$ bill!

    A very good trigger for big game and even down to coyotes. Its in a good cartridge too, a 7 mm Rem Mag!


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    Now that I think about it, my Remington 700 in 7mm Mag, had a Really nice trigger too. Too bad I lost it I a divorce. My ex claimed she needed it for bear protection. As soon as things were finalized, she took it to the gun shop to get whatever cash she could for it. I wish she had told me. I would have given her a lot more for it.

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    Over the years have shot a lot of mil surps. So have gotten used to the two stage trigger. Can stage it on the second pull and usually get good accuracy. My Sako 75 has a great trigger and it isn't set as low as it can go. Managed to lower the trigger pull on my #4MKII just by polishing and a good safe trigger pull. If I ever get the $$ going to get one of their Timney Elite triggers with the two stage trigger pull. Frank

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    2.5-3 lbs, no creep, no overtravel, crisp pull is what I strive for in all of the rifles. Military surplus? If you don’t want to spend the bucks for aftermarket triggers, learn how to shoot the mil-surp trigger. They work wonderfully if you learn them correctly. I have to agree with the comments about Remington 700 triggers, easy adjustable, safe if don’t go crazy chasing a ultra light trigger pull! Just my .02
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    Quote Originally Posted by Budzilla 19 View Post
    2.5-3 lbs, no creep, no overtravel, crisp pull is what I strive for in all of the rifles. Military surplus? If you don’t want to spend the bucks for aftermarket triggers, learn how to shoot the mil-surp trigger. They work wonderfully if you learn them correctly.
    i agree with you, but the 98 mauser, esp the ones made in 1944-45, the trigger pull is horrendous. since being the cheap basturd that i am, dayton triggers is the one for me. i have a 98 mauser with the mark II trigger and i'll say it about 3 1/2 lbs of pull. it may or may not need stock work done. i have a 93 spanish mauser(1926) that needed a dayton spring lock kit. my husqvarna m46 was cock on close, but now it is cock on open, thanks to dayton.

    http://daytraco.com/Departments/Dayton-Traister.aspx

    the 91 argie(3 of them), 93 venezuelan, 95 chilean and the 1908 brazilian mausers are the original triggers. same with the 1898 krags(4).
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    All of my hunting rifles have around 3 lbs. My match rifle, an Uberti 1885 High Wall, has a 2.5 lb trigger.
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    As others have already pointed out, it ALL depends on the end use.

    The Remington 700 in 7 mm Remington Mag I posted early in this thread about is not a fly shooter. It should be with such a grand trigger. Its an early 700 and I bought it used late in its life, thus it may just need a serious barrel cleaning. Another 700 in the same cartridge which is a stainless of the 2004 era (still old school trigger) shoots lights out but in adjusting that trigger by the same instructions, it just does not come out as clean on the break.

    Now to varmint triggers, my holy grail, I have a Remington 788 in 22-250 to die for! It wears a Canjar single set. Along the way I started messing with Savage bolt guns and naturally being very picky about triggers, I of course had to delve into that facet about the platform. I built a short action into a .204 Ruger and after learning about the different grades of accu-triggers, I found a few of the red blade target accu-triggers. Then I learned that to make those “red blades” really sing you needed to have the “target sear” mated up as well.

    A complete target accu-trigger is capable of being set as low as 6 or 8 oz. It proved a little too light for my tastes and I screwed it back into about 14 oz.

    We are not talking elk rifles here at 6 or 8 much less 14 oz., We are deep into varmint or target work.

    The Canjar is different as it is a set trigger. You can use it for big game if you are disciplined. The main trigger is fully adjustable and could serve well for large animals but for a long well rested shot the set trigger phase would likely fit the circumstances.

    It’s a shame Canjar triggers are no longer made, particularly the single set.

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    Being a NRA high power competitor for years ( service rifle side mostly) I got used to the 4 1/2+ 2 stage trigger on the service rifles. I actually like it a lot it allows you to take half the pull or a little more off hold and dress up the sight picture then break the shot. I set my triggers up so that the 1 stage as around 3 lbs leaving a little over 1 1/2 lbs to break.

    My hunting rifles are also set up with 4 1/2 lbs triggers as most hunting was done in cold weather and this was controllable with cold hands and fingers. My varmint rifles are around 2 lbs. but these are used more like a target rifle in the range.

    The trigger even at 4 1/2 lbs if clean smooth and crisp feels more like 2 lbs to a lot of people

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    I really don't favor one trigger over another with my rifles. My 1917 had a 11lbs., long, gritty trigger pull at one point, and I shot it just as well as the others.

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    3 - 3 1/2 pounds is what I aim for. My Rem. 788 223 Varmint is about 7 1/2 pounds, and someday I may drop the money for a decent Timney trigger for it. Others including my Ruger 10-22 have been modified to 3 - 3 1/2 pounds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GregLaROCHE View Post
    I wish there were a better topic to post this, because I doesn’t concern only factory rifles, but all rifles or smooth bores.

    There was recently posted a poll regarding trigger pull for handguns. That made me think it would be interesting to know what members think about trigger pull for long guns. I haven’t understood how to make a poll, maybe someone would like to make one. It could be interesting. For sure there is a difference between hunting, plinking and target shooting.
    My Ar's get triggers between 3-4 #'s
    for my bolt action rifle I do love the new Winchester trigger from the factory
    unsure the poundage but it is nice
    have one on my 220 swift Featherweight and 35 Whelen Super Grade
    Hit em'hard
    hit em'often

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