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    Is water the new oil

    pulling up youtube there are all these current videos about drought, 1200 year drought in US, how crops are going to fail forcing food prices up, etc etc etc
    got me remembering back about a dozen years go of so reading how the Bush family bought up like a kazillion acres in central and south america with some of the finest water supplies on earth.
    food prices sure are up that's one thing I know for sure after trip to grocery store

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    That's from unchecked inflation not drought

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    Son and I bought a young cow that couldn't breed.
    Went in 50/50 with him, We have plenty ground beef.

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    What do you think would happen when you farm in the middle of a desert? Early 1900's they drained the 9th largest body of water in the USA in California to get land to grow cotton.

    It is happening all over the USA. It will only get worse. The huge aquifer in the middle of the USA is next. California wants to tap into it to supply their needs. If they do then it will start the Midwest on an accelerated pace to end up like California is in.

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    And the bad thing is, when California runs out of water, they will head out to the rest of the US and drain their resources. You think the exodus now is bad, just wait.

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    My grandfather always said that whiskey's for drinking, water's for fighting for. I believe that it's going to be there pretty soon.

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    neighbour piece about a mile from me just sold at auction, it had 40 acre feet of ditch water on 80 acres of ground, the water sold for more than the ground. an acre foot of water is enough to cover an acre 1 foot deep, sounds like a lot but that has to last all year and around here we dont get much rain. if you figure some places get 3 inches of rain a week an acre foot is the equivalent to 4 rains.
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    Water has always been a source of power and wealth especially in the desert Southwest. Greed and corruption are hallmarks of the western water wars.

    It was even used as a plot device in the Jack Nicholson movie "Chinatown".

    The people that control the water control everything. LA Water and Power is a prime example of this. The rich in S California are never bothered in low water conditions but the middle and lower classes get shafted.

    I agree that this is what happens when you farm a desert. But the original vision was to build several dams and water storage projects here to carry our state through the dry years and to accomodate future growth.

    But the liberals and greenies took over the state and we never built any dams or increased our water storage.

    A funny story that illustrates the corruption and arrogance of LAWP. A few years ago we were experiencing another drought. LAWP told their customers that water was tight so could you please try and conserve. If they didn't conserve they would have to raise rates to discourage wasteful use. They did conserve.

    But the water bills are based on the amount that you use. Since water use was down revenue for the water district was down. So LAWP sent out a letter saying that since the revenues were down they would have to raise rates to make up the short fall.

    True story. I will try to find a link and post it here.

    Good luck my friends.


    Steve in N CA

    PS Here is just one of the stories:

    https://www.dailynews.com/2015/10/20...se-of-drought/
    Last edited by sghart3578; 06-19-2021 at 10:18 PM.

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    I remember that, think it happened in Denver too.

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    The romans were able to build aqueducts, with primitive equipment, that went hundreds of kilometers, why can't we divert water from were rivers dump into the ocean?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Omega View Post
    The romans were able to build aqueducts, with primitive equipment, that went hundreds of kilometers, why can't we divert water from were rivers dump into the ocean?
    Short answer: Greenies, Eco Freaks, Socialists, Self Serving Politicians. Answer beyond that could be extensive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MUSTANG View Post
    Short answer: Greenies, Eco Freaks, Socialists, Self Serving Politicians. Answer beyond that could be extensive.
    It’s a little more complicated than that. The best short answer is probably cost.

    There will be wars fought over water.

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    hope so. I live about a 200 yards from lake superior and would gladly swap you water for guns.
    Soldier of God, sixgun junky, Retired electrical lineman. My office was a 100 feet in the air, closer to God the better

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    Is it to costly to use ocean water like they do on carriers ? I would think by now there must be means to convert it. I know they spent millions if not billions to remove oil and sludge from the ocean.

    Just thinking out loud, Mike

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    Quote Originally Posted by myg30 View Post
    Is it to costly to use ocean water like they do on carriers ? I would think by now there must be means to convert it. I know they spent millions if not billions to remove oil and sludge from the ocean.

    Just thinking out loud, Mike


    I think desalinization is expensive but CA and FL are going to have to start looking at it. Where I am at every winter is now a drought. The fresh water canals get so low they are unusable. We are seeing saltwater intrusion in to some of the aquifers, yet they won't stop building like crazy and binging more people in to the area.

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    Go out in the Gulf of Mexico due west from Tarpon springs and I will show you boils when the gulf is calm 100 feet across sit on the edge of that boil and catch red snapper Florida is a sponge and more water flows into the Gulf than will ever be used on land.

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    Desalinization is certainly viable. Israel has been doing it for years on a massive scale. It would work here also but our greenies won't even think about it.

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    When you desalinate the ocean water what minerals other than salt do you recover? is there a market for them? If not, what do you do with them?
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    Never fear . . . . at some point the politicians will come up with a solution - OAC is already working on it but she better hurry up 'cause according to her life will end in a few years . . . . too bad we can't have a drought when it comes to career politicians . . .

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    The parish sells us rain drums ready to go here,35 bucks each,These are used to catch rainwater for the gardens.
    Must sux to live in a Commie state where catching rain water is forbidden.

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