Why no 1895 Winchester in 45/70

[Pioneer2]

Can't that one be made from 45-70 brass FL sized? Be nice if they ran some .35 Winchester too. Or .577 Snider

[Beaver Scout]

I have one. It will pound you just as hard as the .405. I also have a 30-40 and a .303. Looking hard for a 38-72 and 40-72
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It took me quite a while to find a 38-72 that was what I wanted, I really enjoy shooting mine, I'm using an Ideal mold and it loves it.

[Combat Diver]

Had one of the Browning 1895s for couple of years in .30-06. Very nice rifle, used it on trade for a Browning 1886 Carbine in 45-70.

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[Gray Fox]

I have one of the mid-80s Miroku in .30-06. I put the replica side mount sight on it and generally shoot either Hornady 220 grain RN or a Lee 205 grain RN and I refer to it as my faux .30-40 Krag. GF

[alfadan]

A friend at a gun show had one tagged as 3006 but was actually in 30 03. I suspected at the time the 30 03 would be worth considerably more.

[freakonaleash]

A friend at a gun show had one tagged as 3006 but was actually in 30 03. I suspected at the time the 30 03 would be worth considerably more.

30-03 has a longer neck, otherwise the same. They are difficult to sell because the brass and dies are difficult to find.

[cwtebay]

I have had a fascination with the 1895 since a very young age. I own/have owned an embarrassing number of them. I have had at least one in each of the originally offered chamberings (except 33 WCF - I've never even seen one). My favourite by far is the 35 WCF - hard hitting, flexible, overlooked and all but forgotten!
My current project is an 80's vintage Browning that I'm trying to get rechambered to 6mm Lee Navy (my original is pretty rough). But trying to find that chamber reamer has proven difficult!


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[cwtebay]

I also have to say that I completely disagree with Elmer Keith's likening it to a poisoned pup bloating in the sun.....

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[beechbum444]

.577 snider would be interesting

[freakonaleash]

I have had a fascination with the 1895 since a very young age. I own/have owned an embarrassing number of them. I have had at least one in each of the originally offered chamberings (except 33 WCF - I've never even seen one). My favourite by far is the 35 WCF - hard hitting, flexible, overlooked and all but forgotten!
My current project is an 80's vintage Browning that I'm trying to get rechambered to 6mm Lee Navy (my original is pretty rough). But trying to find that chamber reamer has proven difficult!


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The '95 wasn't ever made in 33WCF, that's a '86 caliber first made in 1903

[cwtebay]

The '95 wasn't ever made in 33WCF, that's a '86 caliber first made in 1903

According to Phillip Sharpe "The Rifle In America" it was a special order caliber in the"95.

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[StrawHat]

Here is mine, originally a 30 Govt but reworked to 405 WCF. I have shot factory out of it but prefer to treat it as a 40-72. The 40-72 is plenty for most North American game. I reload with the Lyman 412263 boolit and 28 grains of 5744 powder. Easy on my shoulder but hard on animals.





I have not read the Sharpe book but I am not aware of the 1895 being chambered for the 33 WCF. Pretty sure the 33 WCF had dimensions similar to the 45-70, so I can not see how it could be done.

Kevin

[NorthMoccasin]

Here is mine, originally a 30 Govt but reworked to 405 WCF. I have shot factory out of it but prefer to treat it as a 40-72. The 40-72 is plenty for most North American game. I reload with the Lyman 412263 boolit and 28 grains of 5744 powder. Easy on my shoulder but hard on animals.





I have not read the Sharpe book but I am not aware of the 1895 being chambered for the 33 WCF. Pretty sure the 33 WCF had dimensions similar to the 45-70, so I can not see how it could be done.

Kevin

You are 100% correct. 33 winchester could NOT fit in a WINCHESTER model 1895. It WILL fit in a MARLIN model 1895, and it was available in that caliber.

[samari46]

I had the not so privileged occasion to shoot a 1895 in 405 Winchester. Was watching a member of our gun club shoot it. He noticed me watching and said "want to try it?". Loaded 5 rounds in the magazine and handed me the rifle. Well did shoot all 5 rounds, but never again. Was more fun than I could handle. But I do have a 1895 saddle ring carbine in 30-40 Krag. When the ranges around here finally open up will be trying it out. No collector value, bubba got to it first. Frank

[762 shooter]

I just bought a 1895 in 30 US. I didn't realize there was such a fan club here.

If I'm not mistaken Teddy took the 30 40 to Africa too.

762

[Bent Ramrod]

Shooters in the 1890s were as interested in history as anyone is now, but there was not a nostalgic bone in their bodies. The idea of “re-enacting” anything back then did not occur to them; the worst thing they could imagine was being considered (by reason of practice or ownership) a “back number” by their fellow shooters.

The new smokeless propellants, jacketed bullets, high intensity loadings and reduced bore sizes was the way of the future, and the large-bores, even loaded with smokeless powders, were, to their way of thinking, headed for the dustbin of history. No forward-thinking shooter back then would have been interested in a “modern rifle” chambered in an obsolete caliber like the .45-70. The 1895 Marlin was about the last hoorah in that direction.

[crash87]

Sadly, Hornady has stopped making the brass and mine (my brass) is starting to get a little long in the tooth (had a case head separation a week or so ago).[/QUOTE]

I did not know this! While my 1895 is a 35 Whelen, I have a 405 in an 1885, I will need to get a request off to Starline also.
Thanks for the heads up
Crash87

[beltfed]

Years ago, I had a like new 1895 takedown, lightweight in 30-06 cal., crescent steel buttplate,etc.
That one really smarted to shoot with 180 grain factory level hunting loads.
It went "down the road" . And I continued to hunt with my M86 1/2 mag, 45-70 - 385 gr cast at 1740fps was
easier on the shoulder than the 1895 '06. Of course, I have a shotgun butt Fajen with a Pad on the '86. Heh Heh Heh...
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[Frank H]

I’m jealous! Cool rifles

[Eddie Southgate]

And so I did..... Should there be enough requests they will run us a batch. And when they do I will buy a box of 500 and smile my way along for the rest of my days.

Good luck . I have repeatedly asked them to do the .218 Bee and .25WCF and despite the fact that that they have had untold numbers of requests for both cases they say they have no plans to ever make either . I would imagine the demand for both of these would by far exceed the demand for .405 brass . GB and most of the other online sources have at anytime guns for .25-20 made by Winchester, Marlin, Remington, Savage just to mention the most common manufacturers but Starline still can't see any profit in making the brass . Lots of .218 Bee rifles around too. They could make .218 brass only and those of us who shoot both could make the .25-20 without loosing cases like you do with .32-20 .