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    Yup I do too ,well maybe 2 as it ain"t to big here but think about the statement . If you got to work a alloy with the patch ,the patch goes south along with accuracy if it is hard . The patch does fill the groove but again the lead has to be soft otherwise you get torn patches . You can make anything work but it doesn't mean your hard alloy will not damage your patch As far as other guys using it is like recommending bore butter for patch lube/paraffin or boiling water down the tube for shooting /cleaning . It isn"t hard to prove shoot a bunch with soft /different diameter /different lubes , it involves trigger time (a good thing) and examine patches then do the same with any alloy of your choice .You will find again (for sure ) the mold your casting were meant for pure LEAD not any alloy brass or whatever you find .Increase the BHN and it will lessen weight and increase diameter ,if thats your goal great but nope it aint mine and shooting soft get you expansion not a pencil hole thru and thru at round ball yardage again easy to prove on game . I do know some guys that come home saying a perfect shot /broadside ect but no blood trail just some hair /Ed

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    I’ve used nothing but old lead pipe, but I’ve contemplated 2% tin to help with bullet fill out. I see no reason, other than were I to get harder lead, to use it. I wouldn’t mind any expansion of my .490” balls, but they don’t need it. A caliber sized hole works quite well. Soft lead only readily expands above 1100-1200 FPS, which a .50 cal drops to around 75 yds with a stouter load. We all know they’re good we’ll beyond that.
    Last edited by rodwha; 06-09-2021 at 08:33 PM.

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    For a round ball, I see no need for adding tin for mold fillout. There aren't any lube or crimp grooves to worry about. A conical? Yes, I can see the need, but not for a Round Ball.

    With that said, for a patched round ball I think anything from pure to wheel weights can be made to work fine. I wouldn't go as hard as Lyman # 2 or Linotype, but softish alloys should work.

    Robert

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mk42gunner View Post
    For a round ball, I see no need for adding tin for mold fillout. There aren't any lube or crimp grooves to worry about. A conical? Yes, I can see the need, but not for a Round Ball.

    With that said, for a patched round ball I think anything from pure to wheel weights can be made to work fine. I wouldn't go as hard as Lyman # 2 or Linotype, but softish alloys should work.

    Robert
    It would be for my cap n ball bullets, but I’d likely be ordering from Rotometals so the ingots would be 2% tin for everything.

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    For cap and ball balls you want pure - you take the chance of breaking your loading lever with anything harder. If ordering from Rotometals order pure lead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wayne Smith View Post
    For cap and ball balls you want pure - you take the chance of breaking your loading lever with anything harder. If ordering from Rotometals order pure lead.
    Nah. Kaido sells/sold his that are/were BHN 7or 8 IIRC. No more than 10. It doesn’t have to be pure or else with most guns. Maybe the flimsy Rem Pocket might have a problem. People use slightly hardened lead through revolvers quite a bit.

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    remember that REAL BLACK IS WHERE IT IS AT!!

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Abbreviations used in Reloading

BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
GC Gas Check