45 ACP brass ? do any manufacturers use just large primers

[Jim Curlee]

Just wondering if certain manufacturers use just large/small pistol primers, or is it just a crap shoot when you buy brass?

Thanks
Jim

[Hossfly]

I’m not finding it on the boxes where they say spp or LPP. I just went thru 4000 and found =+ 800 spp and keeping for hard times.

[rintinglen]

"Green" or "Lead-Free" are the sure fire tip offs for SP primed 45 ACP. The lead styphnate-free primers are made only in the small size, reportedly because they are hotter and a LPP with the same secret compound might cause excessive pressure. IME Federal is the brass is most likely to be found with small primers.

[imashooter2]

First it was .40 S&W littering the range like snowflakes, and now some damned fool decides they'll load .45 with small primers. Ignorant. Just ignorant.

ETA: buying brass, I’d ask which primer and if the answer was wrong I wouldn’t buy.

[ddixie884]

I believe Star-Line .45s are all LPP............

[Earlwb]

I expect that there will be a inexorable change to SPP over time. They have to reduce or eliminate lead pollution. It is driving bullet design and manufacture already with coated bullets or jacketed bullets or all copper bullets. Thus you cannot trust that you will always be getting a box of ammo from any company that is going to be LPP as they might have changed over.

[2A-Jay]

All my Hornady .45acp brass is LPP, a couple thousand reloaded all LPP.

[Cosmic_Charlie]

Never ran into any with spp. But I haven't loaded it for a long while either.

[ioon44]

I have never seen a small primer Remington or S&B .45ACP case, but then that don't mean they don't.

[robertbank]

As Ringtinglen pointed out the need for SPP in 45ACP arose to meet the lead free demands that exist in the marketplace. The move to SPP was driven by the need to provide lead free cartridges. Manufactureres were not able to make LPP work using the lead free compound hence the switch. Not cleaning up after yourself is perhaps ignorant...using SPP ammo is not. I have found SPP in Win and Federal brass. The boxes I have seen are marked Lead Free. I don't reload the SPP in 45acp, preferring to stick to LPP, so I toss them SPP cases in my recycle bin. If I got more of them I would separate the and sell them off to guys who want to reload them.

Take Care

Bob

[Burnt Fingers]

I've never seen a SPP Remington, Hornady, or Starline.

Federal and CCI are the two that have the SPP as far as I remember.

[alamogunr]

I've got a lot of both. When buying once fired, it is usually specified. I like the SP brass because I don't have to change the primer setup on the Dillon 550. I've got enough LP brass to make it worth while to set up for a large run of .45 ACP when I'm loading for sons or grandsons. If I lose an appreciable amount, I don't worry about it.

I have never had a problem with primer sizes being mixed.

[Bmi48219]

Federal and CCI are the two that have the SPP as far as I remember.

I’ve seen a lot of Blazer & some Winchester & Speer SPP too.

[Polymath]

I see a lot of Blazer Brass with SPP pockets, Not a big deal, load a tray with empty cases, mouth down, then separate out the SPP, I save these until I have a box or two then load them. Inspection of cases is just part of my loading practice.

[frkelly74]

It was just sort them out and use the appropriate size primer, Load and shoot. Now though I am about out of Small pistol primers , So try the small rifle primers. They work in the 38s but my G2C doesn't always fire them. No problem in the 1911 45 spp though. Plenty of wham to make them scram.

[dannyd]

Look on the bright side: in the 45 acp use can use SP, SR, LP and LR. So any primer will do

[robertbank]

Are large rifle primers useable in 45acp? LRP are longer than LPP are they not.

Take Care

Bob

[wilecoyote]

...lrp in 45acp? why ? pressure spike will soar, with all the risks involved.

also Fiocchi produces .45acp somewhat-green ammo with spp.
reloading their brass I find no difference compared to those with lpp _

[dbosman]

Large rifle primers are taller than large pistol primers. They should also have thicker cup metal.

[dannyd]

Large rifle primer work in 38 Special. Standard deviation TC Encore rifle 6ft/s, TC Contender pistol 9 ft/s, and GP100 revolver 6” inch barrel 13 ft/s. That’s the best numbers I have ever gotten with that load

Milled out the primer pockets




Other shooters using them in 45 ACP