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    old war house sure can gallop

    recently traded for a rem classic in 857. Wasnt to excited about the thing to be truthful. That is until today. Finally got around to shooting it. 150 interlocks with 4895. Wasnt expecting much but the first 5 shots went into an inch. That got my attention. Shot a couple more groups and it average around an inch and that was the first load (and probably the last) i tried. Then i shot some over the chrono. First shot i thought there was something wrong with the chrono. So i shot my 06 go to load to see if it was right, the o8 showed 2900 fps which is about right so i shot a 5 shot string with the 8 and it averaged 3125!!! Absolutely no pressure signs and easy bolt lift. Now its got a 24inch barrel compared to the o6s 22 which might account for a 100fps at best. It not only beat the 06 but trounced it!! I mostly use bolt guns for crop damage shooting which is typicaly 300 yards so like i said before today i wasnt to excited but after today you couldnt pry that gun out of this house. Ive seen factory 300 mags that didnt give that kind of velocity with 150s. Might not be the best bc bullet out there but at that speed it ought to shoot plenty flat. Pretty impressive for a ww2 era battle round.
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    Is that an 8X57 or was it a typo & is a 7X57.

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    The 8x57 is excellent and the 1905 "S"version with the 154 grain bullet most probably is the reason the 30-06 was birthed from the 30-03.
    You will like it and it is a star with cast, too.
    If you can find some, the even lower BC 125grain Hornady spire point drops deer right now. I used those and the 150gr for several deer with excellent results. And with 200 gr bullets, it is a good elk cartridge as well. My late brother switched to a .300 Weatherby to gain some range; but he told me that he preferred the 8x57mm for less than 200 yards.
    That rifle is a true Classic, I'm happy for you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldhenry View Post
    Is that an 8X57 or was it a typo & is a 7X57.
    nope its an 8x57
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    Quote Originally Posted by Texas by God View Post
    The 8x57 is excellent and the 1905 "S"version with the 154 grain bullet most probably is the reason the 30-06 was birthed from the 30-03.
    You will like it and it is a star with cast, too.
    If you can find some, the even lower BC 125grain Hornady spire point drops deer right now. I used those and the 150gr for several deer with excellent results. And with 200 gr bullets, it is a good elk cartridge as well. My late brother switched to a .300 Weatherby to gain some range; but he told me that he preferred the 8x57mm for less than 200 yards.
    That rifle is a true Classic, I'm happy for you!

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    i dont shoot much cast bolt action stuff so ill probably never bother trying them in it. Ive got a bunch of 170s too but for the most part my bolt guns are used for crop damage shooting and shooting flat means more to me. Now the 125 might be fun to try and see how much velocity a guy could get. Just think about the fact im getting about a 100fps faster speeds then 2506 will shoot 120s and thats with 150s. Id bet a guy could get near 3300 fps out of 125s. Still shaking my head at the velocitys i got with it. Like i said thats about identical to the results i got out of the 300wsm i owned with 150s.
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    A fine “old” cartridge!
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    The 8x57 is a great round, my brother bought a Yugo reworked M98 that was really accurate. Liked it so well that he rebarreled a nice Savage 110, it shoots very well too. The Hornady 8mm 125 is discontinued but it shot better than anything else in my scoped M48.

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    You’re off by a war, try the Great War.
    I had the 1994 version in 6.5 x 55 which I foolishly let go for a 7-08 model 7 Kevlar SS.

    I always liked the 8x57.
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    I've killed prairie dogs, coyotes, skunks, raccoons, pigs, lots of WT deer, and two(2) Mule deer with the 8x57mm loaded to European specs. I also took two turkeys with Yugo surplus fmj ammo.
    ONE 8 point jumped straight up( heart) and ran 70 yards away before falling. Stuff happens. Everything else just fell.
    My most used 8mm was a ER Shaw barreled BRNO K98( stampings and laminated wood)
    That I completely sporterized with Classic Bishop stock, Weaver K6 in Redfield steel mounts, Timney trigger, Pachmayr Old Englih pad. It was a bit heavy due to the minimum ( for 8mm bore) Magnum Sporter contour.
    But it shot well- especially lighter weight bullets.
    A few years go by, and my brother sent it to become a 30-06 Imp- so I ended up with that 8mm barrel. A good young GUNSMITH rethreaded and fit it to a T38 Arisaka action.
    Another great gun; nicknamed Howie( for Howitzer)- because with its now 16-1/2" barrel- it had a "signature sound"!
    Again, a great cartridge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texas by God View Post
    Another great gun; nicknamed Howie( for Howitzer)- because with its now 16-1/2" barrel- it had a "signature sound"!
    Even, just, reading that sentence makes my ears ring!
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    I've got an 8 EM EM, a 98 Mauser gunsmithed into a very light rifle with a Redfield peep in the 50's, barrel not good, a keepsake from one of the "Uncle's" who took me hunting in the 50's. Took it out and took a muley, a pronghorn and a cow elk in his memory. Used 200 grain Partition on the elk, 150's on the rest. I always considered the 8x57 better than the '06 for most hunting, but I just like the 32's.

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    I love my scoped M48A. Also have its twin with a peep sight. Have killed a few deer with them; used your same 150 Interlock in the peep-sighted rifle, Lloyd, and Nosler 180 BT’s in the scoped rifle. Both are very good loads, accuracy – wise, and very effective killers. I load those 180’s hot; I call it my “three-two-three Mauser Mag.” I probably should not load it that hot, but it’s a lot of fun.

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    I spotted a used 700 Classic 8x57 in a store once and the price was unusually reasonable for that particular store. I pulled the bolt and looked through the bore and I found out why the price was reasonable; someone had fired corrosive surplus ammo in it and not properly cleaned it afterward. The bore was ruined.

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    The 8mm Mauser is no slouch. Properly loaded, it'll do all the 06 will do and then some. But yeah, if ya shoot corrosive surplus out of it...clean it the same day or the bore will get "moldy" on you real quick.

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    i have a 98 mauser in 8x57 that was made in 1944. i'm either gonna go the 170gr ranch dog or the lee 8mm karabiner boolit.

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