I have had some success with these and thought I would share. I load them with 14.5 grains of unique, using Tac 1 lube and gas checks. velocity is 1620 fps. I love this load because it is very economical and very accurate. I enjoy loading several hundreds on my load master and then go for a walk about. Shot Prarie dogs at 440 yards. Browning BLR takedown 300 WSM. 2 targets bellow. 3 shots at 100 yards. 10 shots at 50 yards.