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    if i had the money, i'm sure i would.

    i don't have the money, or at least decided i didn't want to allocate the money above other 'things'.

    so i've made peace with myself that anything i buy will be used.
    some used more than others certainly but no 'guns' bought for M.int I.n B.ox collecting.

    that said, no grief at all with/for people who do.



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    I do have a couple 'rain/snow' rifles. Mostly they are bad weather rifles due to having receiver/iron sights, not because I worry about getting a rifle wet. I do appreciate stainless steel handguns, if you are out in bad weather for a couple days, they still function and look OK, without messing up the bluing. I do have some guns I have never shot, but that is just a matter of time rather than concern for unblemished newness.

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    Can't say I have but I've bought a few Hi Points which are the definition of beater guns. Chuck a carbine behind the truck seat, heck tie it to the bumper and no matter how much you bang it around it will still work and for the price all those scratches won't bother you at all
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    Interesting question....and concept. Short answer, no. I buy what I want and usually it's something collectible, old, not cheap and already has battle scars provided by some intrepid Nimrod a century ago, or more. I shoot them for fun, education and hunting. One more ding more or less isn't going to hurt or devalue them. New and shiny is really rather repulsive to me....especially those shiny Brownings....yuk. Gimme something with some character, evidence of use and care....and history.
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    I already answered about buying safe queens, but the question lingered in my mind last night.

    Forty years or so ago, My best friend and I did a lot of coon hunting and trapping for fur. For those who haven't had the pleasure of following dogs at night, you will run through brush and stuff to get to the dogs when they tree that you couldn't walk through in the daylight.

    Trapping along creeks also involved a lot of cold wet slick mud. Slip and falls were not uncommon.

    Consequently, to save our good rifles (our first single shot .22 bolt actions, which we both still have) we would buy a .22 of about any description as long as it worked for $10-15 in the fall. Use it all fur season, then sell it after cleaning it thoroughly.

    We never broke one, but it was nice to know that if we did, it wasn't something we were sentimentally attached to.

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    To the OP uh no.

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    I have rifles that I will not bring into the woods for fear of damaging them. We're talking $17k custom hunting rifles. Or a rifle with an Al Biesen stock worth $5k. My dad has gifted me a few fine firearms over the years that are simply out of my price league. I could never afford to replace them. So I leave them protected and pampered.

    The guns I can afford and purchase get used. They are taken care of, but I use them.

    I've never heard of anyone buying two of one model of firearm for the purpose of using one and storing the other. But, if you have that kind of money, I guess it makes sense.
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    mine are for shooting .same as cars/motorbikes are for driving riding.whats the point of things if they are not used or work?

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    I've never heard of anyone buying two of one model of firearm for the purpose of using one and storing the other. But, if you have that kind of money, I guess it makes sense.

    I agree with you on this but the rifles and pistols I want and can afford can stand a few scratches. If they were in the league of some of yours, then I'd be afraid to shoot them much like that guy who spends $80k on a Pick Up that never go's off pavement or see's anything in the bed. You can sure tell I've had something in mine
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    Quote Originally Posted by Idaho45guy View Post
    I have rifles that I will not bring into the woods for fear of damaging them. We're talking $17k custom hunting rifles.
    And I managed to snag a trophy wife but I'm saving her for the next guy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ed K View Post
    And I managed to snag a trophy wife but I'm saving her for the next guy
    Now that's a good way to word it.

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    I never bought a gun intending it to be a beater. It just happened to a couple of them because they were used so often. I don't have anything I don't shoot but some I do take more care of than others.

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    I tend to buy beaters so that I don’t mess up a nice gun and so I can afford them. If it’s mechanically sound with a good bore and not totally beat up that’s usually good enough. Sometimes I’ll go out of my way to get something nice, I tend to be overly careful with new guns. I think the only guns I own that don’t have a single blemish on them are my Sig P210 and my Uberti .45 Colt SAA, and that’s because they’re brand new.

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    I'm one of those guys who buys nice rifles and then turns them into beaters. One slip on the rocks or gravel is all it takes. Just like a brand new vehicle, after the first scratch or dent, then you don't have to worry about it any more.

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    My 27 year old Model Seven is my most beat up gun. Deer hunting will do that. I think it was my first center fire rifle. Pristine bore and a few scuffs and dents on the stock. But it is still a handsome piece. Got an 870 Wingmaster that I bought in 1976 that also has some wear. Some blood pitting on the barrel from a pheasant. But I wouldn't call either of them beaters though there are thousands of rounds between them. But I am not an Leo or a rancher who totes a gun daily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShooterAZ View Post
    I'm one of those guys who buys nice rifles and then turns them into beaters. One slip on the rocks or gravel is all it takes. Just like a brand new vehicle, after the first scratch or dent, then you don't have to worry about it any more.
    My dad is the same way. He has beautiful custom rifles worth more than all of my guns combined, and takes them on hunts and they get scraped and scratched and get what he calls "memory marks".

    I view them as works of art and could never subject them to the chance of being damaged.

    He has one particular rifle that I will inherit that is worth a ton of money. It was a Jack O'Connor tribute rifle built by Al Biesen in 1971 and taken on several sheep hunts and used to take two North American Grand Slams. Just a beautiful rifle. But it has been used hard on the sheep hunts and shows a lot of memories.

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    Totally off specific topic, but I am reminded of a story I heard years ago. An official portrait of Queen Elizabeth was done and the artist smoothed out many of her wrinkles. When she saw the painting she rejected it out of hand - saying something like "I sweat blood for each and every one of these wrinkles and I'm proud of them!" Given what she has actually gone through I empathize with her remark.

    Much the same could be said of some of my guns.
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    I dont collect firearms to look at, I aquire them to use and enjoy,.just as they where meant to be, sort of like a truck after a while dents and scratch mysteriously appear giving it some history and heritage. No firearm was really meant for display otherwise they would have no need of a firing pin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brass410 View Post
    I dont collect firearms to look at, I aquire them to use and enjoy,.just as they where meant to be, sort of like a truck after a while dents and scratch mysteriously appear giving it some history and heritage. No firearm was really meant for display otherwise they would have no need of a firing pin.
    Oh no, there are some very decorated guns, historically and presently, that literally are made as art pieces. I have absolutely no interest in them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brass410 View Post
    I dont collect firearms to look at, I aquire them to use and enjoy,.just as they where meant to be, sort of like a truck after a while dents and scratch mysteriously appear giving it some history and heritage. No firearm was really meant for display otherwise they would have no need of a firing pin.
    I think that is where i might differ from a lot of gun 'nuts'. lol.
    I dont like shooting them as much as I do having them. A nice Beretta, well, not counting the polymer framed ones...I literally hate all polymer guns regardless...is a work of art.
    I generally buy these low end guns to hunt with. Ive beaten the hell out of so many of them over the years. If they can hit the target, they dont need to be expensive.
    Just have some guns that I bought one originally and end up buying a second to set back and pretty much never fire.
    Mostly Berettas.

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