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Thread: Discussion about 38 special wadcutters for target use.

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    Boolit Master Drm50's Avatar
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    At such low velocities what difference does it make? You can run a solid WC per weight same as any style of cast boolit. You can’t with most HBWCs. Depending on alloy how skirt will hold up. The accuracy of loads will be the individual gun as with anything else. I load WCs exclusively in my S&Ws. 38sp- 44sp- 45AR & 45 Colt. I pour my own and favor button nose. I don’t have much experience with my own HBWCs. haven’t had chance to shoot many. Have shot a lot of Hornady 38 HBWCs with outstanding results. Have bought HBWC 44 not used yet.
    The only thing I disagree with in above posts is physical mass doesn’t mean equal volume. A solid cylinder is a pretty economical package for weight. If you want to get technical anything extra to cylinder will increase its surface area.

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    I agree with Tazman here mainly due to his logic. I load my wadcitters for my Model 10, the only 38spl revolver in my safe right now. The gun loves it using 700X or Bullseye. I have more of the former. I now have my old .41LC 1892 converted to 38spl via a 38LC cylinder and a new barrel. I cracked the old 41LC forcing cone. The gun remains an antique under our insanely stupid gun laws. The gun is very accurate in it's new dress SA using Dominion cases and the RCBS WC bullet.

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    Back in the ‘90’s and early 2,000’s when I was at my peak shooting PPC, Itoo shot cast DE wadcutters at the “short” lines. (7,15,25yds). At 50yds in matches I’d use either Star or Precision Delta hollow base wadcutters.
    I used the same powder charge (2.7 Bullseye, or 2.9gr HP38/231).
    I had to make a 1-click elevation and 2-click windage change for the HB wadcutters. I don’t shoot well enough anymore to justify the price of HB wadcutters.
    Circa 2003, a friend I was giving some of my cast wadcutters to for practice and league matches tried them through his PPC gun at 50yds from a Ransom rest. They shot 1.5”!
    He hasn’t bought hollow base swagged wadcutters in 17yrs.
    Neither have I!
    (Yeah I know,.... Lee 148TL with w/w, range scrap, and a tad of 95/5 leadfree solder, LLA thinned w/paint thinner, sized .358”...)

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    G.E. Fryxell has a lot to say about the WC...chp .11 > http://www.lasc.us/Fryxell_Book_Chap..._Wadcutter.htm
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    Thanks for posting that link Charlie. Brought back memories. My first mold was a 10 cavity H&G #50. That thing would rain bullets.
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    Current issue of The Fouling Shot #271 has a followup by Bill Duncan on testing .38 Special wadcutters at 100 yards.

    Earlier issue #258 has background on his earlier 200-yard testing and details on his fast-twist PPC gun.
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BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
GC Gas Check