Any H450 users?

[Texas by God]

I have a full pound of this discontinued powder and data from Hodgon #24. It dates from 1979 and according to those with a sense of smell, it has no ammonia, vinegar, or cat pee odor.
I believe I'll use it, with jacketed and perhaps cast. Have any of you used H450 ?

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[Outpost75]

IIRC you can use W760 data, but I would cross-check with an older Speer manual to be sure.

[clearwater]

Nosler's first manual has it.
It worked in 25-06, 30-06, Krag, 7mm Mauser for me with jacketed.
210 cast in krag was just okay.

[Texas by God]

I’ve read that it and Winchester 785 were the same powder. As it is ball powder; I will use magnum primers to spark it. The Hodgdon book has H450 data for more cartridges than I expected- even .250 Savage and 30-30 Win- so I’m going to use it up in tribute to my reloading friends from the 1970s.
As always, thanks guys!

[rjathon]

It is wonderful in the 6.5x55

[Markopolo]

dont get too excited thomas.. with only one lb, about the time you work up some decent loads you will be running low.. i am not saying dont shoot it up.. just saying ... now if you had a 4lb jug...

i would be making plinking rounds and save the serious hunting stuff to what you got lots of stock in.. i know you must have a stockpile buried in the ground somewhere on that homestead.

[MostlyLeverGuns]

I've got about 3 lbs left of an 8lb 'box' (heavy plastic bag in the box) from the 80's?. Used in 243, a little slower than 760, I found that it left quite a lot of fouling that would harden into a gunk in the barrel. It needs a magnum primer, I think fouling is the heavy deterrent coat on the powder. It does measure nicely and I did get good accuracy with 85-90 grain bullets in the 243. I used 45 gr H450, CCI250, Speer 90 grain in a Savage 99E .243 that I carried in my saddle scabbard for the back country when NOT elk season. Need to get solvent down the bore before the fouling can harden, otherwise works well.

[Texas by God]

Marko that's sorta the plan, although I loaded some jackets in .303 British with it for the Old Smelly Bubba.... haha you probably have gunpowder in your bathroom and kitchen too.
I was surprised to find H450 listed for the .303 but not the 30-40. The 30-30 data looks cast friendly speed wise.

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[gpidaho]

Thomas: I was gifted a couple pounds of H450 I wish that it was still in production. Hodgdon #25 and 26 are good references. Seems I remember that you too are a fan of the 25-06. Works very well in mine. PM me if you would like some data for any calibers that you would like to use it in. Gp

[richhodg66]

I used it in 6mm years ago, Hogdon discontinued it and Winchester 760 gave better accuracy anyway. I'd sure find something I could use it in if I had it.

[Markopolo]

you might be right thomas.. but there is no gunpowder in the bathroom... just other powders for damp stuff....

[Texas by God]

The starting load of 46grs H450 with the 150gr Hornady and Remington 9-1/2 M primers works well at 40 yards but the coarse sights work against me at 100 so I didn't try it.

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[rjathon]

H450 is a fantastic powder for the 6.5x55 with 140gr and up bullets. In that application magnum primers aren’t needed. On a progressive it is awesome.

[dougader]

I got a pound of it free with a coupon when I bought something else, then shortly after it was discontinued. As I recall, I wasn't that impressed with it in 30-06 with 180 grain bullets.

[Freischütz]

Worked well enough in my 6.5x55 but left tough, black, fouling that was hard to remove from then bore.

[sargenv]

I remember using it for light to medium bullet weights in the 300 Win Mag (150-165gr). I still have about a pound of it but it's mostly sitting due to my no longer having anything that large anymore.