Ordering Lee equipment from Lee...

[phaessler]

Trying to order Lee products from Lee... but they wont ship to my state due to sales tax restrictions.

" Due to your state’s economic nexus laws that require remote sellers to collect and remit sales tax, the transaction limit for your state has been met. We will not be able to accept your order due to these limits imposed on us by your state legislature. Please contact one of your favorite online distributors for products. For service parts you may contact Titan Reloading, FS Reloading, Graf & Sons, Precision Reloading, or MidwayUSA."

Anyone have any advice? Tried 2 other states, same message...

Thank you

[mdi]

Business "politics" and I fully understand. I spent several decades in CA and when I left there were many on line vendors refused to ship to CA. But now I order from Titan and FS reloading. Nothing wrong with me buying directly from Lee, but sometimes I get a better price from Titan and shipping is quick and easy...

[Burnt Fingers]

It sounds like Lee builds their website like they build their equipment. On the cheap.

Sure it costs money to update a website with a state tax package. But most everyone else has done so.

[phaessler]

Sure it costs money to update a website with a state tax package. But most everyone else has done so.

YUp... I have no trouble securing anything , but this is my first and looks like its just a tax issue... missing out on some custom overrun stuff.

[ulav8r]

Have it shipped to me if you want to pay twice the postage. I would not mind re-shipping if Lee will ship to Arkansas.

[Conditor22]

What are you trying to order?

Generally buying directly from Lee costs a lot more than buying Lee products from Amazon or another big supplier.

[Shawlerbrook]

Yes, I buy from Titan or FS.

[mdi]

I don't think it's about money, a one time "updating" their site. There are other vendors that are Pro 2nd Amendment that don't deal with the more restrictive, anti-gun states. Many won't ship anything to CA...

[Shawlerbrook]

mdi I agree that some vendors such as William’s , Bud’s ,etc. won’t sell certain products to certain states, but in the case of Lee and Virginia it’s all about tax collections

[shaune509]

If Virgina's tax code are like Washington;s they [the seller] must charge the tax rate of the zip code. IE state rate, +county rate, +city rate, +any extra like transit, etc. That is easy for Azons system but smaller company's as those of us who are in an area with 7.8% do not want to be paying the highest rate of 10.2% if they use a default rate. When I still ran my business I had to do the same for were shipped in state were it used to be I charged my local rate as point of sale but that changed a few years back.
Shaune509

[phaessler]

What are you trying to order?

Generally buying directly from Lee costs a lot more than buying Lee products from Amazon or another big supplier.

https://leeprecision.com/bullet-szr-punch-.432.html .....

[phaessler]

I don't think it's about money, a one time "updating" their site. There are other vendors that are Pro 2nd Amendment that don't deal with the more restrictive, anti-gun states. Many won't ship anything to CA...

EXACTLY...... not a legal to sell issue or a lack of want to do business... everything else I get from F&S or Titan. Using amazo I am sure to space multiple items out so many boxes arrive and I get the most out of my kids prime shipping account, Bezos love cardboard and bubble envelopes...

[Lloyd Smale]

Trying to order Lee products from Lee... but they wont ship to my state due to sales tax restrictions.

" Due to your state’s economic nexus laws that require remote sellers to collect and remit sales tax, the transaction limit for your state has been met. We will not be able to accept your order due to these limits imposed on us by your state legislature. Please contact one of your favorite online distributors for products. For service parts you may contact Titan Reloading, FS Reloading, Graf & Sons, Precision Reloading, or MidwayUSA."

Anyone have any advice? Tried 2 other states, same message...

Thank you

found out the same about michigan. They told me if they sell to us and collect taxes they open there books up to anyone in the government that wants to look at them. Said there owner told them that is socialism and he wont do it. cant blame them.

[rondog]

I tried buying something direct from a manufacturer here in Denver, and he told me I'd be better off ordering it from a vendor. A vendor gets them at wholesale then decides his price. The factory would have to charge full MSRP, because he can't compete against the vendors selling his products. Made sense.

[35isit]

My wife works in a city government. She told me this was coming some ten years ago or more. If you buy something online from anyone besides a private seller, you will pay your local and state sales taxes.

[Geezer in NH]

Sales tax? Blame your own state government and voters.

[jban]

If Virgina's tax code are like Washington;s they [the seller] must charge the tax rate of the zip code. IE state rate, +county rate, +city rate, +any extra like transit, etc. That is easy for Azons system but smaller company's as those of us who are in an area with 7.8% do not want to be paying the highest rate of 10.2% if they use a default rate. When I still ran my business I had to do the same for were shipped in state were it used to be I charged my local rate as point of sale but that changed a few years back.
Shaune509

Then you have to figure the added costs of accounting, to make sure the right money, goes to the right places. I don't think I would do it either, if I were a business. Unless there would be enough in it to pay well, for the extra headaches.

[kill456]

I know this post is 8 months old but I also here in Washington state am in the same boat . What is happening is that when a company gets to the 100,000 dollar mark in sales on the internet per year they are required to update there files and to acquire some software that allows them to be able to do business in most states . Its all about paying taxes and collecting taxes . The reason why you dont hear abut it in your other day to day business dealings is that all other companies just look at it as a part of doing business(buying the software from the IRS to keep track of the taxes collected ) I called them and they said they are to small and will not be bullied into buying the software. I like there stance but I dont agree with it. I have been in business all my life from 1987 till I retired in 2012 and this sort of thing is all part of doing business. lets face it if you have made it to the 100,000 dollar threshold by the 3rd month of the year and then times that times 50 states (roughly) then you make enough money to justify buying the software so you can make more money and lets face it were not talking millions of dollars here they just dont like being told what to do well like they say "death and taxes" like me and every other business owner they should decide weather there actually in business or not and just do what they need to do for the convenience of there customers as those are the ones being inconvenienced. Yes you can go to another company to get your LEE parts but those other companies will not and are not required to warranty broken parts and that is the biggest problem here . People are trying to send in old parts and then pay the shipping as Lees warranty that they brag about says and they dont allow you to do it as your state has reached the 100,000 dollar max tax nexus . If its this much trouble to get parts warrantied then you might as well go to any of the other companies who do in fact pay for the software and are not throwing a tantrum about reaching there 100,000 dollar limit. Since when is making a boat load of money a reason to not do business with an entire state ? seems silly to me.

[Winger Ed.]

I tried buying something direct from a manufacturer here in Denver, and he told me I'd be better off ordering it from a vendor. A vendor gets them at wholesale then decides his price. The factory would have to charge full MSRP,

They have to do that, or go broke.
If they sell their stuff on the cheap to individuals, the big distributors quit buying from them.

In the old days, at the paint store, we sold wall paper and would spend a lot of time with customers, then never see them
again when they were ready to order. They'd take the company's pattern numbers and buy direct, of from 800 number pirates.

If we found out a supplier was doing that--- when their new pattern books came in, they went straight into the trash.
With no store front dealers showing their samples- they went broke very shortly there after.

[Sam Sackett]

Yep. This happened to me last week. I went online to get some parts for my powder measure. Placed stuff in the cart and went to checkout. Bingo! Can’t sell to your state. I called Lee, spoke with a nice lady. Sorry, but we can’t take your order. They will allow me to send them my old measure, pay half the price of a new one plus shipping. I asked how they can charge me for a warranty replacement plus shipping, but they can’t just charge me shipping on the parts themselves. Doesn’t make sense. She said that’s all she can do and recommended I just order a new powder measure from Titan. I checked and the cost wasn’t much more.

I think Winger Ed is correct. They changed their policy and stopped cutting out the retailers. Time will tell

Sam Sackett