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Thread: Cast 30-30 for bear

  1. #21
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    If you shoot the bear where you should, the bullet will work just fine. If you hit the bear in the ar-se, well then we have shooter failure, NOT bullet failure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fatelk View Post
    .................. He has backup in the form of a Model 29 on his hip, and dogs, but even these smaller bears are dangerous creatures. I wouldn't want to face one under any circumstances with ammo that's not up to the task.
    A “29” is the first thing I’d reach for in troubled times!

    A pair of bow hunters that I know fairly well were in a tree stand. They stuffed an arrow in a nice bear. The bear decided to use its now limited time on earth to CLIMB their tree .........

    ...... By the time the bears chin reached the boot rest of the stand those two fellers had their tootsie toes tucked pretty far back and arrows drawn!

    Right about then Mr. Bear’s lights went out and it fell back to the ground!

    Talk about PUCKER FACTOR!

    Our State has since revised its law and a bow hunter can now pack a back up hand gun during a bow hunt!

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    “There is more to this than dumping lead in a hole.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by fatelk View Post
    I did a pretty primitive test today, just for curiosity. I was headed to the range anyhow. I took along some gallon jugs full of water and some 1" cedar boards from some old pallets.

    I stacked four boards and sat a jug in front of it. I shot one with a JSP factory round, and one with a cast 170gr bullet. Both jugs exploded with what appeared to be about the same violence. The JSP bullet was lodged in the 3rd board behind the jug, and the cast bullet went through all four, with a fragment of lead barely lodged in the railroad tie behind the boards.

    Same weight bullet, same velocity, similar penetration and transfer of energy. I'm satisfied with that. I'll give him a box to try if he's comfortable with them.
    You proved what lots of dead bears know ,That 170 gr Lee ? will @ BHN15 kill most anything hit with it if placed properly .My 500 gr Cedar tipped 2 blade just does it quieter @ 190 FPS , still have to point it in the right direction/Ed

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    Different cartridge
    Last edited by NEKVT; 04-20-2021 at 04:20 PM.

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    PM sent. I have 2 boxes of Federal 170 grain Powershoks plus an an extra 5 without the box.

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    The ability to break down a bear is important. First, a bear's lungs aren't as long as a deer's. The heart is protected by the front legs. So, the perfect bullet placement is in the front leg (see Boddington's Perfect Shot, NA), and it needs to break the front leg to get to the forward-placed vitals.

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    It must be exciting to hunt a bear ...
    "When the homeland is in danger, everything is allowed, except not to defend it."

    Gral. Don José de San Martin.

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    Lyman Mold #311291 was my family's 30/30 and 30/06 deer and bear bullet. Loaded with 29-30 grains 3031 powder in the 30/30. They killed my twin nephews first bears with no thoughts about them not going to be good enough for that.

    My 30/06 had no problem killing deer and bear at all with them. Casting back in the 60 and 70's wheel weight and some tin worked great on game.

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    Just my .02 worth; I, personally, would temper the Lyman 311041 in hollow point configuration. Top half soft(er) lead 13-14 Brinnell, the bottom half hard(er) about 17-18 Brinnell.

    Only problem is, you cannot find any level of consistency, close though.

    I would be interested to know what he used, and how well it worked...............

    HV
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    If your friend is a Govt Trapper then he's killed DOZEN's of bear. We were friends with one in East TX, he preferred a 22 mag rifle and a pack of hounds. The state kept him in good supply of 22mag and 12 ga #4 buck, which he didn't like.

    I'm sure your loads will be fine, go for it.

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BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
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