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Thread: Seeking someone willing to share load data for an MP 357-135FRNBB in 9mm

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    Seeking someone willing to share load data for an MP 357-135FRNBB in 9mm

    Greetings!

    I have acquired an MP mold that casts a 357-135 FRNBB that will be powder coated. I am hoping to develop a load using WW231. Has anyone had any experience with this bullet/powder combination in 9mm Luger that would be willing to share their experiences?

    Thanks in advance for your help!
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    I've loaded thousands of the NOE 135gr RNFP, powder-coated, over 4.1gr of 231
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    I load the NOE 135 rnfp over 4.8 of power pistol. Never tried 231.
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    I have settled on a load of 4.0 grains of W231 @ approx. 986 fps in the 9mm Luger .
    This load insured 100% functioning in 4 different pistols and was accurate .


    Load Data from the Reloading Data Center Center: 9mm Luger , 135 grain Acme cast RN ,
    W231 powder : I started at 3.6 and had many failures (too weak) worked up to 4.0 grains and got reliable functioning in full size and compact 9mm Lugers

    starting load - 3.6 grs. W231 @ 937 fps
    max. load - 4.2 grs. W231 @ 1028 fps

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockshooter View Post
    I've loaded thousands of the NOE 135gr RNFP, powder-coated, over 4.1gr of 231
    Loren
    LIKE ! This load should also be a good one .
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    Thank you!

    Out of curiosity, could I expect a 135gr bullet moving about 1000 fps to print above or where a 115gr FMJ at about 1150 fps would print?

    Again, thank you for your help!
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    POI is typically higher for heavier bullets (more gun recoil before the bullet makes it out of the barrel).

    However, the difference between the two bullets is pretty small.

    I do not remember much shift at all from a full sized Glock swapping between 108 gr and 125 gr.

    I would expect the POI shift to increase as you go smaller for a gun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by P Flados View Post
    POI is typically higher for heavier bullets (more gun recoil before the bullet makes it out of the barrel).

    However, the difference between the two bullets is pretty small.

    I do not remember much shift at all from a full sized Glock swapping between 108 gr and 125 gr.

    I would expect the POI shift to increase as you go smaller for a gun.
    At typ pistol ranges, Out to say 60y I don't see a huge diff in poi/poa when going 115 up to 147. It's just over thinking it.
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    I asked about differences in POA/POI because with the suppressor height sights that I installed, my G17.5 (using 115gr FMJ) is printing about 4" below the POA at 12 yards. I am hoping that using a heavier bullet at about a 1000 fps, it will print closer to the POA.
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