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    Remington 721 trigger?

    Okay, so I sold my Remington 700 and bought a Remington 721 to replace it. The Remington 700 was a custom shop engraved receiver rifle and I just could not bring myself to take it hunting or to a rifle range for fear of scratching it some way. Since I am not a trigger expert i would like to know if anyone has any knowledge of the trigger failing on the 721 models as happened a few times on the 700. If so, I need to replace this factory trigger as the rifle will be going to one of my grandsons. I do not want to even think about a rifle going off and injuring someone. I am well acquainted with Mauser 98 triggers having worked on several over the years but the rube goldberg trigger on the Remington rifles are out of my league. Advice please, james

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    There was a 2016 trigger recall


    Remington has agreed to retrofit the rifles in question at no cost to the owner.


    The settlement covers more than a dozen models, specifically the Model 700, Seven, Sportsman 78, 673, 710, 715, 770, 600, 660, XP-100, 721, 722 and 725.

    https://www.terrellhogan.com/million...triggers-fire/

    If they check the SN of your M-721, they should be able to tell you if it's already been done.

    Trouble is, Remington's out to lunch, so you can install an aftermarket trigger (Rifle Basix, Timney, etc)

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    Walker's trigger has a floating "connector" that helps to make for a high quality hunting trigger at low cost. Some people have had accidental discharge accidents when disengaging the safety after the trigger was pulled with the safety on and then taking the safety off. That's user controlled and caused by one or both of two mistakes.

    First, when any common oil is squirted into the trigger housing it will dries into a gummy mess that prevents the connector from resetting if the trigger is pulled when the safety is engaged. If that little part can't freely go back into place after the trigger is pulled and released the only thing that's keeping it from firing is the safety; release the safety and the firing pin is surely going to fall and then things will surely go BOOM!

    Cure is to squirt an occasional few spritzes of auto carborator cleaner in the trigger housing to clean and blow out old gummy oil and then put a light, non-gumming oil back. (DO NOT use WD-40 in any trigger, it makes a great varnish within a few months!)

    Other problem is some people love to adjust that trigger so it's like a serious competition trigger, like less than 2 pounds with no detectable creep; it can be done but it's sitting on the ragged edge of a disaster. Add a tiny bit of semi-dried oil into the works and it will easily go passed the ragged edge.

    But, IMHO, if that trigger is kept clean AND set up as a hunting trigger it will safely last 50% passed forever.

    I have a beautiful 700 Mtn Rifle in .30-06 that I love; it has a standard Walker trigger that has never had a hiccup. If I had your nice rifle with engraving from the Rem Custom Shop then Biden and his brain dead Socialist Democrat puppets could have it only after they pried it from my own cold, dead fingers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1hole View Post
    Walker's trigger has a floating "connector" that helps to make for a high quality hunting trigger at low cost. Some people have had accidental discharge accidents when disengaging the safety after the trigger was pulled with the safety on and then taking the safety off. That's user controlled and caused by one or both of two mistakes.

    First, when any common oil is squirted into the trigger housing it will dries into a gummy mess that prevents the connector from resetting if the trigger is pulled when the safety is engaged. If that little part can't freely go back into place after the trigger is pulled and released the only thing that's keeping it from firing is the safety; release the safety and the firing pin is surely going to fall and then things will surely go BOOM!

    Cure is to squirt an occasional few spritzes of auto carborator cleaner in the trigger housing to clean and blow out old gummy oil and then put a light, non-gumming oil back. (DO NOT use WD-40 in any trigger, it makes a great varnish within a few months!)

    Other problem is some people love to adjust that trigger so it's like a serious competition trigger, like less than 2 pounds with no detectable creep; it can be done but it's sitting on the ragged edge of a disaster. Add a tiny bit of semi-dried oil into the works and it will easily go passed the ragged edge.

    But, IMHO, if that trigger is kept clean AND set up as a hunting trigger it will safely last 50% passed forever.

    I have a beautiful 700 Mtn Rifle in .30-06 that I love; it has a standard Walker trigger that has never had a hiccup. If I had your nice rifle with engraving from the Rem Custom Shop then Biden and his brain dead Socialist Democrat puppets could have it only after they pried it from my own cold, dead fingers.
    I have at least a dozen of the Walker triggers. They will not be replaced while I am alive. I don't want this to turn into a shaming game for those that want to replace them or those that don't want to replace them. Do what you feel is correct.

    The bottom line is why is the firearm pointed in an unsafe direction when the safety is being pushed to off????

    I've flipped safety's off tens of thousand of times. In all of those times if the firearm had fired no one would have been injured.

    In over a 1/2 million rounds fired I have had one and only one AD. That was with a Rem 700 but it had nothing to do with this issue. I was in the tree stand with my rifle at port arms. I spotted a Buck coming. As I raised the rife I also switched the safety to off. It fired. The cause was my coat had a zipper with a cord and a ball on it. When I raised the rifle the cord and or ball pulled the trigger and it fired but since it was pointed in a safe direction nothing happened other than I didn't get the deer.

    Since I retired I work part time in a Archery and gun shop. Mostly for the discounts but I have learned how poor some peoples firearm handling skills are. Lots of folks have less brain cells than a jelly fish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by M-Tecs View Post
    I have at least a dozen of the Walker triggers. They will not be replaced while I am alive. I don't want this to turn into a shaming game for those that want to replace them or those that don't want to replace them. Do what you feel is correct.

    The bottom line is why is the firearm pointed in an unsafe direction when the safety is being pushed to off????

    I've flipped safety's off tens of thousand of times. In all of those times if the firearm had fired no one would have been injured.

    In over a 1/2 million rounds fired I have had one and only one AD. That was with a Rem 700 but it had nothing to do with this issue. I was in the tree stand with my rifle at port arms. I spotted a Buck coming. As I raised the rife I also switched the safety to off. It fired. The cause was my coat had a zipper with a cord and a ball on it. When I raised the rifle the cord and or ball pulled the trigger and it fired but since it was pointed in a safe direction nothing happened other than I didn't get the deer.

    Since I retired I work part time in a Archery and gun shop. Mostly for the discounts but I have learned how poor some peoples firearm handling are. Lots of folks have less brain cells than a jelly fish.
    This guy said a mouthful.
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    I have had 3 total 721's - 2-270, 1 - 30-06(very briefly). None had any sort of trigger problem, the only consistent issue was ice /snow freezing in the safety notch. Cost me a fantastic mule deer and a decent bull elk. I blame myself for not realizing this issue before the moment.

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    I think it's all been said and said well.
    The problem was more poor gun handling and poor gun maintenance than anything else. In a world where engineering is expected to overcome stupidity, you get lawsuits and recalls when engineering fails to address every variation of stupidity.

    cwtebay hit the nail on the head: " NEVER underestimate the power of stupid" !

    The Remington trigger isn't as bad as it's made out to be and like M-tecs stated, this doesn't need to be a shaming game. If you want to replace the Remington trigger, there are options. If you want to keep the Remington trigger, it's not a death trap.

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    Ok guys, thanks for your answers.

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    all of the above and to adjust the rem trigger you must go thru three steps A-B-C in that order to make it a safe useable hunting trigger(not a hair trigger). i like a 4-4.5 pound trigger pull on my hunting firearms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M-Tecs View Post
    I've flipped safety's off tens of thousand of times.
    Well, to be fair, just flipping the Walker safety itself isn't going to cause an accident; it only happens if the trigger is actually pulled while the safety is engaged. THEN, if the sear connector does not properly slip back in place, the only thing restraining the firing pin will be the safety itself; flip the safety off and KABOOM! Then whatever the muzzle was pointed at will have a hole.

    Eastbank's goal of 4-4.5 lb. is a rational trigger pull for any hunting rifle that will be used in cold weather.
    Last edited by 1hole; 04-03-2021 at 02:15 PM.

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