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Thread: made a rifle OAL gauge and getting big numbers..I think?

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    Today I tested out two loads, these are similar to the last two loads, but I had 50 rounds of each this time, and tested them at 50 and 100 yards

    To summarize, its hard to tell if there is a difference between the loads. One load I shot 6 rounds at 95 yards and the other 11 rounds. This is because one fits in the magazine and the other doesnt. The 11 round load has a couple fliers which make it a bigger group than the 6 round load, but if you delete those flyers, the groups are basically the same.

    My shooting is getting better in real-time because I'm a beginner, so there are big improvements magazine to magazine. This makes it tricky to figure out whats going on.

    But regardless, I was able to get a 1.65 MOA 6 shot group at 95 yards, and I dont think thats a fluke. This is my best group yet. That load was:

    2.340" COAL (this is a 20 thou bullet jump)
    full length sized (full shoulder bump, probably 14 thou)
    55gn FMJBT
    21gn RL-7
    1.750" trimmed once fired range pickup lake city brass
    no crimp, just deflare

    But really, I think the other load may be just as good, and its exactly the same except the COAL is 2.250", and it fits in the magazine

    Obviously I'm contributing to the accuracy error, so this ammo may be good enough for me for the short term. I will see if I can try it at 150 or 200 yards.

    I dont think I will be fine-tuning this load much more. My next experiment will be:

    Lapua 223 brand new brass
    69gn sierra match king bullets
    Load will be direct from sierra as "most accurate" for this bullet
    Powder charges trickled to the limit of the scale (0.02gn)
    Brass trimmed using a much higher quality method (the lee quick trim die is a joke)
    variations of shoulder bump and bullet jump

    In theory I should see a quantum leap with those changes. If I dont, that will also be interesting.

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    It doesn't matter how good the ammo is it can not shoot better than the shooter or the gun is capable of.

    "most accurate" only indicates what worked best out of that particular rifle nothing more.

    That being said some tried and favorite loads tend to work well out a large percentage of rifles.

    https://www.thehighroad.org/index.ph...t-load.485101/

    https://www.sniperforums.com/threads...ra-hpbt.61857/

    https://www.ar15.com/forums/armory/B...oad/42-292442/

    https://forum.accurateshooter.com/th...-hpbt.3777814/

    This is a John Holliger of White Oak recommendation that I have used for many years and had great success with this load in a wide variety of rifles. It is my go too load for initial testing.

    69 gr Sierra (overall length 2.25")
    Powder Type Grains
    Reloader 15 24.0 to 24.8

    Have you shot proven accurate rifles before? jetinteriorguy makes some excellent points in post #20.
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    Quote Originally Posted by M-Tecs View Post
    It doesn't matter how good the ammo is it can not shoot better than the shooter or the gun is capable of.

    "most accurate" only indicates what worked best out of that particular rifle nothing more.

    That being said some tried and favorite loads tend to work well out a large percentage of rifles.

    https://www.thehighroad.org/index.ph...t-load.485101/

    https://www.sniperforums.com/threads...ra-hpbt.61857/

    https://www.ar15.com/forums/armory/B...oad/42-292442/

    https://forum.accurateshooter.com/th...-hpbt.3777814/

    This is a John Holliger of White Oak recommendation that I have used for many years and had great success with this load in a wide variety of rifles. It is my go too load for initial testing.

    69 gr Sierra (overall length 2.25")
    Powder Type Grains
    Reloader 15 24.0 to 24.8

    Have you shot proven accurate rifles before? jetinteriorguy makes some excellent points in post #20.
    thanks, I will be doing tests with the 69 gr smk.

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BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
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