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Thread: What's the largest 9mm cast your shooting for subs in a 9x19mm?

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    Boolit Buddy elginrunner's Avatar
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    What's the largest 9mm cast your shooting for subs in a 9x19mm?

    Title says it all... i'd like something similar to this: http://accuratemolds.com/bullet_deta...bullet=35-155D I'm thinking about PC subsonic....

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    Ive stuffed a WC , I think it was a 358432 148 gr , with about .1 out of the case , there's data sort of for a 200 gr bullet . If a 35-200 , 358-200 , or the Lyman version will feed you have the data for 38/200/38 Short/New Police . How far do you want to go .

    The 147gr has 9×19 data though .
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    The boolits I cast and load for my 9s is a 150 grain hollow point. It will cast a 155-160 grain with the flat pins. Its an NOE Elco mold.

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    That noe elco looks good. Do you mind sharing your OAL in 9x19?

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    I've had good luck with Bayou 160 grn RN over 2.8 grns of Alliant Sport Pistol out of a S&W 929. Over a 17 round test that load averaged 805 ft/sec, ES=23 ft/S, SD=6 ft/S, Power Factor (PF)=127-130. That was on a 25F day last Feb (2020).

    I have also fired that same load from a Glock 22C with a Lone Wolf 40-9 conversion barrel. The results were similar to the S&W 929. The velocity averaged 827 ft/S, ES=27 ft/S, SD=8 ft/S, PF=130-134. I tested that load in August of 2020 on 67F day. I am assuming the cylinder to barrel gap of the revolver accounts for the reduced velocity from the S&W 929.

    This has been a very accurate load from both pistols.
    Last edited by LaPoint; 03-18-2021 at 07:29 AM. Reason: Fat fingered typos

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    1.125 oal over 2.8 grains of Red Dot. Nice soft subsonic.

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    I have shot a lot of 160gr bullets out of 9mm.

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    I played with heavy 9s for little bit there are multiple threads from the past if you search I know I had one at one point. You can make Lee 358-158-RF work but I like NEO 358-158-TC ELCO better

    http://castboolits.gunloads.com/show...8gr-SWC-in-9mm

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    My go to heavy 9mm boolit is the NOE ELCO.

    It's a great design that allows it to be seated further out than most heavies.

    As with any boolit my seating depth could be way to long or short for you.

    Especially as I have had DougGuy throat a few of my barrels.
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    Heavy 9mm bullet

    I designed the 35-214 for the 9mm and have shot hundred or so of them to start to find a load for them, then work, hunting and health got in the way. But I hope to pick up load development this summer God willing. This is as close to max weight that can be used in 9mm and still fit in a mag.
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    I think a 200-205gr would be max for most people and 180-200gr would give a little better performance and powder choices. But I am looking to stay subsonic and if I can find a great load in the 800-850fps range that is accurate I will be very happy. Also this big of a bullet requires a fast twist and I have been using 1:10 without issues.

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