I don't do much shot gunning any more but I took the two I have sitting in storage out to look them over, (Not much else happening here on a rainy afternoon). A Winchester Model 50 -12ga and an Ithaca model 37 in 20ga. These were both I used when I did a lot of bird hunting back in the 60's. I started looking at their resale value and was VERY surprised at how much they were going for. Makes me think twice about keeping them.