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    in the REVENENT,? I don't know if I got it right, LEONARDO DI CAPRIO,S film the frizzen's were all closed and appeared to fire when they were struck by the hammer? JMHO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toot View Post
    in the REVENENT,? I don't know if I got it right, LEONARDO DI CAPRIO,S film the frizzen's were all closed and appeared to fire when they were struck by the hammer? JMHO.
    Those did all fire, they were made by North Star West.
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    In mountain men, they caught the guy ramming and he shot an Indian with the ramrod in the bore. Rifle and ramrod were both unscathed. I found that unbelievable. Figured either the gun would blow up or the ramrod would be mangled.
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    People have shot RRs out of guns and they went unscathed. Usually it's because they forgot and left it in but sometimes because they get it stuck. MLs are quite resilient but not totally blow up proof. Quickest way is to load with smokeless powder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by waksupi View Post
    Those did all fire, they were made by North Star West.
    They were good guns De Caprio even got one pistol he stole to fire twice from horse back without reloading, very impressive!!

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    My wife gets really upset when I point out stuff on TV that is inaccurate. Firearms or otherwise. One TV show had a car in a pond with the trunk exposed, but when the tow truck pulled it out, it came out front end first!!

    She glares at me and tells me its just a TV show!!!

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    As was previously noted, the History Channel can get really bad. Saw one show on Mountain Men where the trapper was setting a coil spring trap....uh-huh. And, another on Hitler's "Beer Hall Putsch" where BOTH SIDES were armed with SMLE's!! Just watched one a couple nights ago that was just as blatant but I don't remember what it was. No, most of those guys don't know what was when or how it works.
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    Quote Originally Posted by poppy42 View Post
    How about the old TV cop shows where the bad guy screws a suppressor on the end of a revolver!
    I just saw a recent film where they did the same thing! The best thing is when they fire it, it sounds like a mouse fart.
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    You can actually use a suppressor on a revolver but you have to set the barrel back and set the cyl/barrel gap at just over 0. Still doesn't make it silent but none make any gun silent. Most only reduce noise level about 30 db.

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    I remember watching a old 50’s or early 60’s movie with them shooting flint locks. All they had to do is recock the hammer and shoot again. No reloading was involved. Never found one of them

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    The worst disappointment I experienced with my flintlock pistol was that no loading ever reproduced that uber-Kool “pyttt-ti-kowwww!!!” sound on firing that all the flintlock shooters in the Davey Crockett shows on TV used to get.

    Too bad Fess Parker and Disney didn’t publish a booklet of “Davey Crockett’s Loading Secrets For Best Sound Effects.”

    On the other hand, that nifty “ka-pweeeennnng!” ricochet noise is easily obtained by firing a .22 RF at a 45 degree angle against the top of a railroad track. Couldn't get it to happen off every rock, tree, corral post or other obstruction the Cowboys could, though.

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    my wife will tell you not to watch movies with me cant help myself
    thought this was gonna save money

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    I remember watching a western some years ago about a scout (Clint Walker) who had rescued the captive fair haired damsel from a Indian camp and was fleeing to the settlements with her. They stopped for the night to camp and built a roaring fire to cook. Scout whipped out a knife (clearly a Buck 110 in the close up) and proceeded to open a can of beans to cook. Indians found the camp a few moments later (surprise) and rode into the camp shooting and shouting. Scout proceeds to put up a withering fire from 5 to 10 yards with a repeater (Winchester 94), this is in a timeline that was suppose to be taking place in the late 1870's. Well he misses all shots but drives the Indians out of the camp in full retreat. By this time the Winchester had run out of shells and the Indians were what looked like 300 to 400 yards away (they looked like ants on tiny, tiny horses in the camera. Scout whips out his trusty .45 single action and fires one fast snap shot as they disappear over the very distant ridge. Off his horse topples one dead Indian. Now he can't hit with a rifle at 10 yards but can pull off a snap shot at incredible distance. Just like real life. Wife couldn't understand why I was laughing so hard until I explained it to her. Now she watches for the mistakes and laughs with me. She is really getting into old westerns because of the humor in them. John Wayne made some real bonehead moves in his early movies. In one western we watch, his Colt had not quite cleared leather when it went off but the bad guy about 100 feet away fell dead just the same. Wife made me back up the action so she could watch it again. Like I said, she is really into westerns now. james
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    Quote Originally Posted by rbuck351 View Post
    You can actually use a suppressor on a revolver but you have to set the barrel back and set the cyl/barrel gap at just over 0. Still doesn't make it silent but none make any gun silent. Most only reduce noise level about 30 db.
    Really! Yes I know that technically , it can be done. LOL
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    In the old gangster movies ,a snubnose 38 was fired folded in a pillow ......I often wonder if that would silence the blast?

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