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    LBT Soft Blue Lube

    I have used LBT Soft Blue in my Saeco Lube Sizer for about 30 years with good results at revolver velocities of 800fps through about 1200fps. No leading if bullet fits cylinder throats. Recently started loading cast gas check bullets for centerfire rifle: 30-06, 303, 6.5 x 54 MS, 38-40 WCF, 38-55 WCF and still no leading with loads in the 1,500fps +/- range.

    My question is this: some of these cast bullets are either very long (won't fit the Saeco lubesizer between die and nose punch) or the diameter bullet I need is not a standard Saeco size and I therefore have to order custom sizing die from Buffalo Arms. So,,,,,,,,,,I got started with NOE push through and interchangeable bushings....all well and good, but I want to stick with the LBT lube and hate to melt down the sticks to do the pan lube and cookie cutter method.....Is there a formula for home made LBT Soft Blue Lube?

    Thanks!

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    MottySpecial,
    Welcome to the forum.

    LBT lubes have proprietary formulas.

    There are lots of DIY lube formulas here that will pan lube well and work for standard castboolit velocity rifle loads. A few to search for are Ben's Red, Simple Lube, and Juniors' 411.
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    Ben's Red is a good one I have pan lubed in the past with. I had good results also with Simple Lube in the winter. It just gets to hot around here in my parts for simple lube. If left in the sun it fouled my powder. Simple trick was to keep the ammo in a cooler.

    I prefer soap lubes these days but they don't remelt easily.

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    Lathesmith here on the forum could probably make you the sizing dies you need

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    MottySpecial, carelesslove, here !

    I have recently (~18 months ago) cleaned out all the lubricant from both my SAECO and LYMAN 4500 lubersizers, and replaced it with LBT SoftBlue. I did this after talking to Veral Smith and ordering a .44 cal mold, a box of SoftBlue lubricant, a few top punches, and some of his mold lube sticks (beeswax + colloidal graphite). I have since ordered a large supply of SoftBlue - based on uniform success, in several calibers / molds / guns.

    I listened and learned a lot in my lengthy conversation with Mr. Smith, and everything he said has proven to be correct. I did not ask him what went into the SoftBlue, but I have a strong feeling that he ain't gonna give up the formula - to no one! From my own brief experience with SoftBlue and the 40+ years with ALOX (and a couple of other lubes), SoftBlue smells & feels very different from any other lube I have tried and flows better (at room temperature) through my lubersizers and evenly fills single or multiple lube grooves and stays put! It is good stuff.

    If you end up following rockrat's advice on the custom sizing die maker - Lathesmith - please let us all know. It seems that the old guard - RCBS, LYMAN, Redding/SAECO, and LEE are only going to make what they want to make, in "standard" sizes. They have literature that says they will make custom dies, but it seems they are stretched to capacity, just making standard sizes.

    Good luck, Tom "carelesslove" Love

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Abbreviations used in Reloading

BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
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