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Thread: 30 carbine and hunting deer?

  1. #81
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    Hot rodding the .30 Carbine? Why not.

    Hodgdon data puts a 110 gr SP out the muzzle at about 2,075 fps in their labs, and does the same with mine using Li'l Gun. Nah, I don't jerk the trigger fast as I can.

    Was burning up some S&B ammo (yuk!) on the 100 yard butt a few years back.


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    Quote Originally Posted by WinchesterM1 View Post
    I talked to a Korean War vet who was in a mortar squad, I asked him about the rumors of a 30 carbine not penetrating a Chinese winter coat. He looked at me in the eyes and said... I call tell you about 8-9 Chinese who doesn’t believe that....

    I have used 30 carbine for deer using Remington SP and also my own cast bullet, the lee 309-115fn(soup can) and also the NOE 310-130rn I use 2400 powder with a GC pc bullet and out to 75 yards I had no problems.... I hit behind the shoulder and they ran maybe 20-30 yards. But I don’t use my M1 Carbines....
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    Your stock is prettier than mine. I hope my oldest can use my 62 (.30) to take a deer this year. If not mine, she can use my dads (.256) between the two of us we have just about every option covered, but yours is in better shape than either of ours. Dad got his as a birthday present when he was 15. Mine came from a coworker who had been given the gun for his son and he wanted to trade it for a 20ga single. I did well. Dad used his for chucks for 20 years until he couldn’t find ammo. I reload for both calibers now.

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    The old wives tale of the .30 carbine not penetrating chi-com winter clothing is BS and has been proven with frozen denim /wool and ballistic gel out to 200 yards.Shooting them past that range still killed but not quickly as the 06

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pioneer2 View Post
    The old wives tale of the .30 carbine not penetrating chi-com winter clothing is BS and has been proven with frozen denim /wool and ballistic gel out to 200 yards.Shooting them past that range still killed but not quickly as the 06
    But I heard that from a guy who mumbled "semper Fi" in a bar who said his brother in law had an uncle who knew this guy who said he was at the "Frozen Chosin" who said all the Marines through their M1 Carbines away because of that.....so it must be true....?
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    [QUOTE=Larry Gibson;5186684]But I heard that from a guy who mumbled "semper Fi" in a bar who said his brother in law had an uncle who knew this guy who said he was at the "Frozen Chosin" who said all the Marines through their M1 Carbines away because of that.....so it must be true....?[/QUOTE

    There was a similar story floating around after WWII. Supposedly if you hit a man in the ear with ball ammo out of a 45 Auto, it would break his neck. Then there was the story that a round from a "Jap 25" rifle was no more dangerous than a bee sting.
    Disclaimer: The above is not holy writ. It is just my opinion based on my experience and knowledge. Your mileage may vary.

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    FYI Classic Firearms has another batch of refurbished M-1 carbines for sale. Various manufacturers. Prices starting at $1,500. I’m not plugging the seller. Just saying they’re out there and not getting any cheaper.

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    midway sells them too
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    Was reading a book about monster Mule Deer. Seems the #1 Mule Deer kilt in NM was way back in the day using....drum role please....a 32-20 WCF!! Just hit them in the right place and you'll be fine, wait for the shot.

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    If you can find someone to cast you some since the mold is out of stock, I have killed many varmints and a few deer with th mp molds mjollnir bullet from a 32-20. Just size them down to.308" for the carbine. I've shot them for om the blackhawk sized down with great accuracy. Use the large hp and coww powder coated and you'll be fine if you broadside the lungs. If you don't pc, then you need the gc version. I'd help but can't seem to catch the mold in stock.

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