I am with Brutal AB. This year in 3 full days of sitting in my box blind i had 15 grouse walk by my stand from 5 to 35 yds away. Not 1 deer was spotted in that time. The forth day came along, i told the wife i was going grouse hunting for the rest of deer season (3 days) Do you think i saw a single grouse in that time. NOT 1. But i did get a deer.