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Deer are thick here, grouse are not. So yes, I carry a Stevens tip up with a 22 short for just that purpose. It weighs all of ten ounces loaded and is quite accurate.
When bow hunting, there is no issue as there is no noise.
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We don't get grouse where I deer hunt. Instead, we shoot coyote, and yes, I shoot every one. There is so much shooting all year, gunshots are the LAST thing a deer cares about. Unless deer are closer than 50 yards, they are not likely to spook. Even if a hidden one is inside of 50 yards, often they stare at you for a few seconds. Every year for as long as I can remember, someone in our party has seen a second deer after shooting one. Big bucks could be a different category. My two biggest bucks were all alone. My third biggest buck came bounding through not two minutes after I had shot a doe, during muzzleloader season no less.
It absolutely is. My wife, kids and I all have one for timber elk hunting.
I sort of developed an obsession with these and the Winchester variety. We use them pretty often for fun (and small game), believe that I have them all - save for the 405 WCF-41 Colt. I would really enjoy having one of those some day.
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To me grouse hunting is the Holy Grail of hunting so I would not shoot one. As far as gun shots spooking the deer here it does not. I hunt on my own 40, on the neighboring 40 to the North this guy will shoot 50-100 rounds just before sunset on week ends hopping to scare the deer.Doesn't work, I've shot many a deer anyway.
Yes and legal to in my state. That is why I carry a small 22 pistol, CCI cb's or I screw the Gemtek onto the front. What noise?
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We always "take" what is provided.
But I am a recurve hunter so noise, movement and changing over ammo selection is never an issue. Slice and dice works on everything.
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here in PA, you are not allowed to shoot any small game in rifle season. but i shot grouse and ringneck during archery season when i was hunting deer. deer flintlock season , i assume that you could shot grouse, but i don't know. in WV i don't know. i always hunted deer.
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No grouse here either. But the sound of shots might wake the deer up a bit, get them moving. Could be a plus.
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Not a chance I will blow a deer hunt to whack a grouse. Blacktails are hard enough to chase already without scaring them off!
I would absolutely take a shot at other game while looking for deer. I have repeatedly had to stop shooting at my target gongs because deer literally wandered into the line of fire within 50 yards of me, I'm pretty sure a mouse-fart load isn't going to drive them off.
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In the west we always took a shotgun it wasn't uncommon to have sage hen and blue/roughed grouse seasons overlap deer season and chucker ........well they have a phrase , "it's only hunting the first time , then it's revenge" .
Typically we would run into them mid day after the morning hunt .
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"It's only hunting the first time, then it's revenge."
I've used that line re chukar.
You know, I posted that picture of our cartridge adapter out of a knee jerk response. Yes, we use them with frequency! But my middle son actually packs a sling shot for the same, and he is deadly. I also respect the.man that uses his bow for the same.
However, I have given each of our family hunting group 10 rounds of ammo for the adapter, there's a Lee Loader with primers / powder / boolits for 500 in the cabin - can't say there's much of a dent in reloading supplies in the past 10.years.of doing this.
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My rule for "targets of opportunity" to fill the dinner pot during deer season is not to shoot within a 1/4 mile of where I intend to hunt deer and always mid-day when deer aren't moving very much. Of course, if you are in a popular hunting area for deer, you should consider if you are molesting somebody else's hunt (apologies to the movie Jeremiah Johnson).
Shoot a grouse and you eat a meal. Shoot a deer and you eat several meals. Seriously if I was in trophy buck mode I would pass on a grouse. But then I don't live where every meal is a blessing.
Several years back I hunted on a piece of property where the land owner had 24 crop depravation tags. I had a friend how was active with a boys home and we partnered with a processor to do all are deer for the home for $20 each. I have set in one spot and taken up to 6 does in 3 hours with out moving. And had bucks walk thru the area with out being alarmed.
I have taken many grouse while deer and elk hunting, but not with my rifle. I carried a tiny 25 ACP pistol in my shirt pocket upon which I had soldered a set of adjustable sights to allow close aiming. The pistol was loaded with ammo containing a flush-seated 25 caliber air rifle pellet propelled only by primer force. The gun was pretty much 100% on the typical less than than 25 foot shot distance between the grouse head and my hand with very little noise.
BP | Bronze Point | IMR | Improved Military Rifle | PTD | Pointed |
BR | Bench Rest | M | Magnum | RN | Round Nose |
BT | Boat Tail | PL | Power-Lokt | SP | Soft Point |
C | Compressed Charge | PR | Primer | SPCL | Soft Point "Core-Lokt" |
HP | Hollow Point | PSPCL | Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" | C.O.L. | Cartridge Overall Length |
PSP | Pointed Soft Point | Spz | Spitzer Point | SBT | Spitzer Boat Tail |
LRN | Lead Round Nose | LWC | Lead Wad Cutter | LSWC | Lead Semi Wad Cutter |
GC | Gas Check |