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    Stay in New York and Remington is doomed to fall once more. They are going to have to overcome a lot of bad publicity over the substandard rifles they produced to try to stay alive. In the modern production world of plastic rifles and the emphasis on cost, they will be fighting un uphill battle trying to bring the Model 700 back to the old level of excellence at a cost that will allow it to sell well. Cerebus(spelling) did a real theft job on Remington and then ran as was stated. There was an excellent article written on that subject but as of right now I cannot recall who wrote it or how to find it again. That is one thing that congree and the senate needs to take a serious look at and bring some legislation about to stop the large conglomerates from raiding small companies. It is nothing less than legal (right now) corporate theft. I have always been a Remington man but right now they are going to have to prove to me that the company is serious about re-creating a good product again and that starts with moving the whole operation to a gun friendly state or they loose me. james

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    I think there is enough of a demand for iconic guns done right that they could keep the Ilion factory going, but not at the level it once was.
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    Remington Ilion DeathWatch Update: https://wibx950.com/5-big-things-we-...ning-in-ilion/

    The good news: Some steel was delivered to the plant, and "new equipment needed to relaunch the production line has been and is in the process of being ordered."

    The bad news: RemArms and the Union have 60 days to reach a finalized labor agreement.
    Remember: Ammo will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no ammo.

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    I just hope they start producing guns before the big shortage ends. This is a boom time for gun mfgs, especially for something like the 870.

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    I just listed my Remlin 1894 on Gunbroker with a $600 reserve. It's the only one available as far as I can tell. If it hits reserve, I will be as happy as a clam. Once Ruger starts production, the Remlin jokes will plummet in value.
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    Remington Ilion Deathwatch: https://www.fieldandstream.com/guns/...-for-new-guns/

    Production hasn't started yet. Product is supposed to be on the shelf "well ahead of hunting season." Model 870 first, then the 700, then the 1100.
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    Remington Ilion Deathwatch: https://www.oleantimesherald.com/new...a2d47b591.html

    230 workers now back at the plant, including 120 hourly Union employees. Lets see how long it takes to have the first new 870 come off the line.
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    Remington Ilion Deathwatch
    It's been a month, and there has been no triumphant unveiling of the first new gun to roll off the restarted assembly line yet. The Remington website doesn't have any news either. I estimate RemArms has racked up roughly $1 million in payroll costs alone in the past month.
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    1 HOLE sums it up nicely.

    Quote Originally Posted by 1hole View Post
    Right. Up to about the 1920s, big industrial managers tended to view employees as disposable parts on some sort of assembly line. Labor unions because necessary for desperate employees to limit the abuses of many big companies.

    Politicians quickly realized the potential of money and "free" labor for their election programs from unions. The management of big unions made a tacit deal with the Democrats and laws were passed to benefit UNION labor (but not every worker) and the downhill slide to corruption between politicians and big unions began. But, much good came from it ... at first.

    But, when a rational balance between the forces of labor and capital was made (about 1947) the big unions continued to extort ever increased benefits simply because they could. Thus, the big unions have long been a cancer on the backs of the paying public. Someone has to pay for everything the unions win and the public pays ever increasing prices for everything they need.

    So unions demanded more and more and the whole U.S. economic structure ratcheted up in the continous inflation cycle we still live with.

    Big Unions have less attraction here than they have in other places; we know that big nothing is the "working man's friend", including big unions. People in the south are less likely to surrender control of their lives to any big power group.

    We prefer to have jobs with reasonable compensation instead of being unemployed at twice as much. Jobs make it easier for us to feed our families than no jobs.

    The South's industrial economy is pretty strong today. Well, except where Dem politicians do the most to help the otherwise helpless and hopeless professional welfare big city ghetto people get larger welfare checks.



    Right again.

    Unlike so many of our well fed "northern" friends, we hordes of political independent "deplorables" in NC, SC, TN, TX, GA, AL, LA, FL happily welcome those companies considering coming here to provide good non-union jobs for our unemployed and underemployed people.

    Fact is, jobs/no jobs, unions/no unions, BIG daddy Democrats/non-Democrats, we all have to make life choices for what seems best to us and then live with the results of our choices, hopefully without whining to everyone else about how unfair life is. !

    * The Stars and Bars still fly. Most people don't even know what the Stars and Bars look like and the more educated they are the less likely they are to know. That's not the people's fault, it's just another ignorant failing of "modern liberal" education.

    God help us, the U.S.A. is in deep poo again. It was the overreaching of power hungry Northern politicians - at the calling of big money guys - that led to the fracus of 1861-65 and they are doing it again. Resist ... and hang onto your wallets and firearms. At the rate and direction the Dems are going now we may be needing them both sooner rather than later.
    Well said 1 HOLE. I'm hopeful Ruger can pull it off!
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    Remington Ilion Deathwatch: https://www.wktv.com/content/news/3-...574645701.html
    Well, now we know why Remington went bankrupt. Three guys are accused of stealing $65,000 from the old company in 2019, and have been arrested. Meanwhile, the fat cats of Cerberus, who "borrowed" a quarter of billion dollars from Remington, are sitting on their yachts, drinking champagne and smoking big cigars.
    Remember: Ammo will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no ammo.

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