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Thread: Western 38 S&W

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    Boolit Buddy
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    Western 38 S&W

    Have some copper colored brass with headstamp Western 38 S&W why the copper look? Could be for black powder loads

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    Boolit Master
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    they most likely a {balloon } primer type . look nice but worthless and yes they were BP

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    The copper washed cases are solid head, but produced with a larger .120" diameter flash hole intended for loading blanks and industrial power loads. The large flash hole prevents the cases from setting back against the recoil plate in firing blanks from causing hard cylinder rotation. I have used unheadstamped (WRA-WW2 era power loads used in explosive bolts for wing-mounted ordnance) cases and later R-P production for standard pressure .38 S&W Loads with 2.5 grains of Bullseye and a soft-swaged 148-grain HBWC bullet seated out to 1.20" OAL and crimped in the top lube groove and they work just fine.

    No issues, but don't "hot rod" them.
    Last edited by Outpost75; 04-07-2021 at 07:29 PM.
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    I believe I saw some of those cases used for 40mm grenade launcher ammunition.

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BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
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LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
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