Copper wire load

[wywindsor]

Anyone ever use #12 or #10 wire for non toxic shot. I have not. But I have all the copper I can use. I just need a quick way to cut it.

[maxreloader]

It would be cheaper to cut up pennies and use them.

[wywindsor]

Wire is free to me. And most newer pennies are steel.

[Joby]

I thought about this before for waterfowl. But when I read rules solid copper wasn’t listed as approved. So I didn’t go down that road.
I figured I’d ball mill it to round it a bit.
Therefore I didn’t devise a method of volume cutting.

[wywindsor]

I will look into solid copper on the Game and fish web. I don't know why one couldn't. The new Boss ammunition is copper coated bismuth.

[rancher1913]

look into lead wire cutters used in swaging, copper should be soft enough that the same cutter might work.

[turtlezx]

long as it isnt lead should be legal thats what there tryng to stop

[CLAYPOOL]

Naw their trying to stop hunting a little at a time....older ones first, the young ones will give up easily....

[CLAYPOOL]

WHEN they got steel in, WHY did all the poising stop instantly..? LEAD they said will lay there for years building up...HMMmmnnnn? The crippling sure did pick up...

[country gent]

Solid copper shot would be much lighter than lead bismuth or tungsten. When steel was mandated the rule of thmb was 1 to 2 shot sizes larger than you normally used to compensate for the weight difference of the shot.

[wywindsor]

Lead 11.34gr per cc
bismuth 9.8gr per cc
steel 7.9gr per cc
copper 8.94 per cc
tungsten 19.25 per cc

[wywindsor]

I have a core cutter for swaging. It may cut a few strands at a time with the right die. I need a way to cut say 4/0 to 500mcm at one time

[dtknowles]

Wire is free to me. And most newer pennies are steel.

No new pennies are zinc. You can melt them and cast them quite easily. When the first new pennies came out I cast a zinc ring for giggles. All my reloading stuff was in storage so I melted the pennies in a spoon on the stove and poured it into a sand mold. Pretty crude but just wanted to mess around.

Tim

[dtknowles]

Anyone ever use #12 or #10 wire for non toxic shot. I have not. But I have all the copper I can use. I just need a quick way to cut it.

What do you consider quick. Do you mean automated. Wire cutters are pretty quick. Feeding the right length quickly would seem to be the challenge. Dies to swage it round would be a challenge too.

Tim

[Joby]

https://www.fws.gov/birds/bird-enthu...g/nontoxic.php

Here is some info. What copper alloy is the wire. (Or would they even know how to check ),or care. And the required Fluorescent coating might be fun.

[Drm50]

Years ago in Army all we had was 00 12g. We would try for ducks off rice paddies and I don’t remember any kills with 00. We pulled crimp with sheet metal screw and cut up #12 copper with dikes for shot. At first it was no good because no velocity. We ended up pounding 00 flat and putting copper in with it. We got a few ducks, but did much better when we found out Navy had 71/2 shot for recreation. We traded up some of that and ate more duck. Only guns we had were riot barrels which ain’t much of a duck gun either.

[Alferd Packer]

I coil the 12 or 10 copper around an 3/16 welding rod so the coils are side by side ,then I slide the thing off and snip between the coils making cheerios of copper.
also on a 1/8 inch rod for smaller cheerios.
You can load these into a shotshell
since lead is scarce.
They really tear up something at close range
You can also drop a few into the nose of a hot glue bullet for weight.They really hit with authority on a squirrel or a rat.

[trapper9260]

I coil the 12 or 10 copper around an 3/16 welding rod so the coils are side by side ,then I slide the thing off and snip between the coils making cheerios of copper.
also on a 1/8 inch rod for smaller cheerios.
You can load these into a shotshell
since lead is scarce.
They really tear up something at close range

Good idea i have some not able to use copper wire sit around now can see about make use of it if need to .

[sharps4590]

wy, I was an electrician for 40+ years. Could you use a ratchet cutter and take a small slice of the 4/0 or 500? I've cut off some pretty thin slices, probably about the size of #2 shot. I believe the insulation would still have to be on the conductor for it to work. Be worth a try if you wanted to pursue it.

[Drm50]

I have mold to cast cores for 22 & 30 cal bullets. They were home made by somebody not me. It would be simple machine job to make mold in diameters you want and have lead wire to cut up for shot.