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    Bayonet help please

    I looked for info on this bayonet which I believe to be for a M1. Any help is appreciated on this particular one. The markings I cannot find anywhere I've looked. Serial number is 42396 and the letter "C" above it. The blade is 17" long.

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    If its American made, I think it will fit on a M1 Garand,
    but was actually made and issued to go on a Springfield '03 for the trench warfare of WWI.

    They might have been issued in WWII, but probably WWI surplus, not new production.
    The new production bayonet for the Garand in WWII I believe is the shorter one we see all the time.

    I've never done any research on the matter, but that's what I've heard.

    A easy way to check would be do a search for 'WWI Springfield bayonet', or 'US WWI bayonet' and see what pictures come up.
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    Pure Speculation on my part (not being a bayonet collector - but have a dozen or so):

    Pic 5 of 6 indicates a mark of 6 on the left and 42 on the right side down near the hilt. I would suspect these being marks indicating the Bayonet was manufactured in June of 1942. This would mean the US had been in WWII for only 6 months when manufactured. The early years of WWII the Marines were still equipped with 1903 Rifles; as well as much of the US Army in the Pacific, Panama Canal Zone, and US based Active Forces and National Guard. So a 1903 rifle bayonet is my suspected use.
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    I agree, if it’s American, it’s probably for a 1903 Springfield. These were cut down for use on the M1, however, and would probably fit an M1 as is.


    OOPS! Just noticed the British broad arrow acceptance mark in the last pic. I think blpenn below nailed it.
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    British Pattern 1907 bayonet for the SMLE

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    I just googled M1903 Bayonet and it looks like it. You don't show the bayonet itself, and Wikipedia does. It looks the same. The picture caption actually says it's a 1905 Springfield M1 bayonet.

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    British M1907 Lee-Enfield Mklll? Original DOM 1907, arsenal walked 42' for re-issue WWll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blpenn66502 View Post
    British Pattern 1907 bayonet for the SMLE
    I agree with blpenn its a SMLE bayonet. MA means is it was made in Lithgow Australia and the broadhead designates military acceptance.

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    Yep it's a Australian 1907 made by Lithgow in June of 42

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    Its a Brit, “ Lime Squeezer” 07 bayonet for #1, Not US 1905 which is for 03 Springfield. 1942 long 05’s fit 03’s, 03-A3’s and O3-A4s( sniper) and the M-1 Grarand. The M-1 bayonet was made for M-1 Garand as the cut down 1905-s were. The US 1917 Eddystone used a similar bayonet as yours BUT the scales( grips) had 2 grooves in them and sheath had the M-1910 wire hanger( and YES this is THE CORRECT NAME for the wire hanger). Nice Brit bayonet there.
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    Thanks guys, I knew I could get the answers here, it's appreciated.

    I got it from a relative for free, have no idea what it's worth but now I've got to find a rifle for it.

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    At least a C note in value these days. Closer to $150 I suppose but I have not kept up.

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    The correct sheath for the Brit bayonets has a leather Frog which attaches to belt that holds sheath. Many “ furrin” bayonets use this system.
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    Thanks for the pic, now it doesn't look like the M1 for the M1903 Springfield.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 10-x View Post
    ...sheath had the M-1910 wire hanger( and YES this is THE CORRECT NAME for the wire hanger).
    No. The correct nomenclature is double hook. To the best of my knowledge, the double hook was introduced with the Infantry Equipment, Model of 1910. So, M-1910 double hook.

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    Hi Posters,

    I was told by a few old WW-2 Marines that the old WW-1 16 inch bayonet was favored by the American troops. Especially before the Marines got the M1 Garand in quantity. Eight fast rounds is always better then five slower rounds!
    As you must know the Japanese rifles were LONG & mounted a LONG bayonet. No joy to have to get 10 inch's closer to a man that wants to stop you even at the cost of his own life.

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