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Thread: IMR 4320 discontinued?

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    Boolit Master
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    I poured at least 12 lbs of IMR 4320 out on the garden a few months ago. Made me sick. I had bought up a bunch of it about 1990 or a bit earlier primarily for the 22 CHeetah Mk I wildcat. I 1st heard about the cartridge from an article written by Jim Carmichael form I think "Outdoor Life Magazine". Anyhow it used the special Remington manufactured small primer pocket 308 benchrest basic case and as such was prone to hangfires if you used just any powder and temperatures were low. Mr. Carmichael suggested combining IMR 4320 with Remington 7 1/2 benchrest primers for reliable ignition and it worked. So I went and bough 15,000 of the primers and two 8 lb cans of IMR 4320 to add to the individual 1lb cans i already had on my loading bench. They sat on my bench in the garage until about 6 or 7 years ago. This is a garage attached to the house that is insulated but not temperature controlled so the temperature varied a lot but not really that different than most guys loading bench that i know. Anyhow about 6 or 7 years ago I got concerned and did move all powders and primers to a temperature controlled storage except for 1 lb of each and 1,000 or less of each primer size that stays on the bench - in the garage - for use. Well, apparently something had already started happening to the IMR 4320 because even in a temp controlled storage area those two 8lb cans literally rotted and dumped powder all over the floor. Holes big enough to put a grape fruit through opened up in both sides of both cans. I was so sick about the idea of throwing it out that I kept using it for a while and developed a technique of separating the "Rust" - for lack of a better term - from the powder. I would pour out a small pile of the powder on a paper towel, then alternate lifting opposite corners of the towel letting the powder shift side to side. Each time it shifted part of the rust would sperate from the granules and I could pour the powder onto another paper towel. By repeating this a few times you ended up with what appeared to be good powder. And it loaded the same, gave good accuracy and no pressure signs. But then caution got the better of me and I dumped it all. I just don't know what characteristics may still be changing in the powder or how it would affect burn characteristics. What is odd is that I've yet to run into anybody else who has had this happen. Also I had 8lb cans of IMR 4350 and 4831 stored in the same place and for the same time that look like new. I sure wish they would bring IMR 4320 back though because it also works perfectly in the 35 Remington.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burnt Fingers View Post
    I must be the third guy.
    we should start a club.

    A good friend of mine uses varget in his bergara .308 win. He swears by it. IMR 4895 has been the stalwart staple on my shelf since I started pulling the disposable income disbursement lever.
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    No man is above the law and no man is below it: nor do we ask any man's permission when we ask him to obey it.

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    Boolit Buddy
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    I had a pound of 4320 do the exact same thing. Walked out and saw powder all over the ground to notice the can was about half ate through.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danyboy View Post
    Varget also discontinued in 2020.
    Saw 10 one pound containers of it at the LGS last week. $89.99/ea. Also had H4350 for $99.99/lb.

    I don't know if they've sold any but I didn't buy anything.

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    Boolit Bub

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    that's bad news imr 4320 is my powder of choice in 35 whelen

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    It's the powder of choice in my 358 Norma. About 10 years back I bought 20 1 lb cans of it when a shot was selling it off cheap. I think I paid $13 a can for it. Still have about 15 lbs left.

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    It is too bad. It's my favorite powder in the 7.62x54R with the Hornady .312 150 grain SP. Sadly, I have less than a pound left of it.

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BP Bronze Point IMR Improved Military Rifle PTD Pointed
BR Bench Rest M Magnum RN Round Nose
BT Boat Tail PL Power-Lokt SP Soft Point
C Compressed Charge PR Primer SPCL Soft Point "Core-Lokt"
HP Hollow Point PSPCL Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt" C.O.L. Cartridge Overall Length
PSP Pointed Soft Point Spz Spitzer Point SBT Spitzer Boat Tail
LRN Lead Round Nose LWC Lead Wad Cutter LSWC Lead Semi Wad Cutter
GC Gas Check