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    For now I do not cast wheel weights most of the Lead I buy is shot with a spectro gun , Although I have always been very careful to keep Zinc out of my melt . Im finding so much zinc now in wheel weights for my liking I pass on wheel weights .

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    Ten years ago:

    100 pound bucket; (12 pounds of Steel, 7 pounds of Zinc, 18 pounds SOWW and 63 pounds COWW.)


    Now:

    100 pound bucket; (23 pounds of Steel, 35 pounds of Zinc, 9 pounds SOWW and 33 pounds COWW.)

    Just not worth the trouble anymore!

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    Should have read this thread before I tried using a turkey frier to melt a bunch of scrap lead a friend who does salvage gave me. There were a few steel ww’s and recognized a few zinc ones as well. Had car battery clamps, and lead pipe along with the ww’s and I’m pretty sure I melted some zinc in the mix. Never had a sort of purple color float to the top before, but before panicking I fluxed and tried casting. So far so good. Boolits fill out good and are plenty good for handgun practice rounds. Beside the weird color I don’t notice any real difference. So I’m in the so far so good category. I’ve always had a knack for learning the hard way. Will try a controlled heat to around 675-700 degrees to see if anything floats to the top. Think dumb luck May get me through the greed for the free lead.
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    Always have the colour purple with my WW melts..........so all good I would say.......


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    Your OK! Purple is pure lead from the other items!

    If it casts good, I'd say your OK! Purple is the pure lead from the battery clamps and lead pipes! Heat pure hot and it goes rainbow on you. Yellow, purple and pinkish blue.

    Fluxing will blend the alloy together and clear it up. Use a bit of paraffin wax and some pine saw dust for best results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jwlegal View Post
    Should have read this thread before I tried using a turkey frier to melt a bunch of scrap lead a friend who does salvage gave me. There were a few steel wws and recognized a few zinc ones as well. Had car battery clamps, and lead pipe along with the wws and Im pretty sure I melted some zinc in the mix. Never had a sort of purple color float to the top before, but before panicking I fluxed and tried casting. So far so good. Boolits fill out good and are plenty good for handgun practice rounds. Beside the weird color I dont notice any real difference. So Im in the so far so good category. Ive always had a knack for learning the hard way. Will try a controlled heat to around 675-700 degrees to see if anything floats to the top. Think dumb luck May get me through the greed for the free lead.
    "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits." - Albert Einstein

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    Quote Originally Posted by jwlegal View Post
    Should have read this thread before I tried using a turkey frier to melt a bunch of scrap lead a friend who does salvage gave me. There were a few steel ww’s and recognized a few zinc ones as well. Had car battery clamps, and lead pipe along with the ww’s and I’m pretty sure I melted some zinc in the mix. Never had a sort of purple color float to the top before, but before panicking I fluxed and tried casting. So far so good. Boolits fill out good and are plenty good for handgun practice rounds. Beside the weird color I don’t notice any real difference. So I’m in the so far so good category. I’ve always had a knack for learning the hard way. Will try a controlled heat to around 675-700 degrees to see if anything floats to the top. Think dumb luck May get me through the greed for the free lead.
    Be as greedy as you can get when someone offers you free lead.
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    Nice to see this topic active as I just cast a bunch of .308 RFN for my 30-30, and then I added 4 pounds of ingot from WW and cast some 250g .452. When it was at about 500 it was looking like runny oatmeal. Once up to 680 degrees it was filling out great but had a frosty look. I started casting 185g .311 or the 303 brit today and was have a hard time getting it to pour right until it was almost 700. I'm pretty sure there must be some ZN in the alloy. They are all plinking rounds. So good enough for me.
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    I get purple /blue/gold tones from (PURE) /Ed

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    When melting new lead, I keep the thermometer in there and religiously keep the temp well below 700 degrees. Then scoop any unmelted zinc out of the mix. (It floats.) Zinc melts at 787 degrees.

    I do sort the wheel weights of course, but this has saved me when a Zinker slips through...

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    My last batch of cww was 2/3 rds Zn Fe. I was pertty sure I got Zn into the mix. Fluxed with sulfur and hoped for the best seems to cast okay but I haven’t been at this long enough to know much about anything. What does having Zn look like when casting. My scrounged range lead plus tin casts nicer looking and heavier boolits. Thanks

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    In my experience, zinc in a pot of lead turns into something resembling oatmeal, which does not go away, no matter how hot you get it. One zinc WW in a pot is usually easy to spot, since it will float on top of the lead.

    You don't say how much weight difference there is. Any other metals added to lead will tend to make the resulting alloy lighter in density. If the difference in weight is minimal, it could be that your range scrap simply has a higher percentage of pure lead.

    If the questionable WW lead just doesn't work for you, consider adding small amounts to you range lead, to stretch the supply. Lead alloys are incredibly forgiving, as long as you don't add too much of any one thing, i.e antimony, arsenic, tin, etc.

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