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Thread: New boolit for black powder revolvers, 45-250 hollow and rebated base

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    New boolit for black powder revolvers, 45-250 hollow and rebated base

    UPDATE: Boolit redesign. After making a number of proposals for a new boolit for Ruger Old Army, to make sure that new boolit is sound, I asked for advise and help from our well know member and boolit designer 45 2.1. He agreed, and kindly provided a new design (THANK YOU SIR), see bellow.

    I also wanted to have this boolit for Remington 1858, Colt, and other clones in same caliber.

    Basic requirements:

    - Weight 250 grains
    - Hollow base (HB), for better accuracy
    - Rebated base (RB), for easier loading
    - Protrusion from the cylinder max. .500", so boolit could be loaded without removing cylinder from the revolver frame
    - Meplat dia .300" max. so it will fit into rammer

    The result of above wishes is boolit 45-250-HBRB-BK (BK stands for 45 2.1 initials):



    Because of slight differences in cylinder chambers between ROA and Remington 1858, Colt, and other clones in the same caliber, proposed are two boolits in two nominal sizes:

    - .457" dia for Ruger Old Army

    - .454" dia for Remington 1858, Colt and other clones normally using .454” dia ball (NOTE: because of smaller diameters, this boolit will have about 246 grains)

    Please make note that diameters without brackets are for Ruger Old Army, and second dimensions in brackets are for Remington 1858, Colt, and other clones. Since I do not have any of those Italian clones, and do not know anybody in my area who has one, please review proposal and let me know if main diameters are OK.

    This mold will be manufactured by Miha, MP-Molds https://www.mp-molds.com/ . We need commitment of at least 25 buyers before production could start. Molds will be available as 4 cavities and 2 cavities. Also, MP-mods offers their mold handles with discount when purchased with molds:

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    Prices are:

    - 4 cavity mold 128.59 euros
    - 2 cavity mold 86.07 euros
    - 1 handles 20 euros (when purchased with 1 mold)
    - Shipping 18 euros. Cost is the same for 1 package with 1 mold, or 1 mold + 1 handles. If one package contains more, cost will vary.

    Please be aware that these prices are just for orientation. Miha will give a final ones.

    Potential buyers:

    1. Onty, .457" dia, 4 cavities, 1 mold, 1 handles, ibcdiesel AT netscape DOT net
    2. alamogunr, .457" dia, 2 cavities, 1 mold, alamogunr AT charter DOT net
    Last edited by Onty; 03-14-2021 at 02:47 AM. Reason: UPDATE: Boolit redesign.

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    I’m in for a 4 cavity hollow base
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    Just updated drawing, REBATED BASE dia is now .450".

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    I would be in for a 4 cavity Hollow base

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    Nice design. Shows a lot of study and thought.......
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    Heck my bored cylinder 58 rem could accept that i may have to dig up some cash id kinda like to see a .38 diameter meplat though
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    Interested but am going to hold off until more discussion.
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    You're going to need more rebated base than that to really get it started straight. Why not half of the bottom base instead of that little sliver?

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    Bump to keep going

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    Back to the top.

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    I would be in for one of these molds. 4cav, HB
    Last edited by koyote; 02-14-2021 at 12:29 AM.
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    I’m in for a 4 cavity hollow base.
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    4 cavity hollow base please
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    Is this still going???

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    Hello folks. My apology for delayed reply, but I was going through several options, considered your comments, and measuring my ROA countless times. So, I put following goals:

    - Boolit weight 250 grains
    - Hollow base (HB)
    - Meplat dia .300"
    - Protrusion from cylinder when loaded .500", so it could be inserted and pressed into cylinder without removing it from the frame.

    Anyhow, here is my proposal:



    Please let me know what do you think.

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    UPDATE: Boolit redesign, see post #1

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    Gentlemen:

    Quote Originally Posted by tja6435 View Post
    I’m in for a 4 cavity hollow base
    Quote Originally Posted by fivegunner View Post
    I would be in for a 4 cavity Hollow base
    Quote Originally Posted by alamogunr View Post
    Interested but am going to hold off until more discussion.
    Quote Originally Posted by koyote View Post
    I would be in for one of these molds. 4cav, HB
    Quote Originally Posted by M-Tecs View Post
    I’m in for a 4 cavity hollow base.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dschuttig View Post
    4 cavity hollow base please
    Since boolit is redesigned, please let me know if you are still interested in the mold(s). Thank you.

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    I don't think that new design is holding enough bullet lube. Change it to one big lube groove and it will work better with black powder.
    Check out this design. http://www.biglube.com/BulletMolds.a...9-68ebfdaba982

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